Alternative To Rear Remotes

[killingitcountry]

Hello all, I have just purchased a used hydraulic dump trailer (Berkelmans 2-ton Big Lil Dumper) to pull behind my Kubota BX. a 2021 Kubota KX-040 mini ex is suppose to land on my property in the next few months and the BX/dump trailer will be busy relocating a lot of material. The problem is - I have no rear remotes and no way to dump the dump trailer haha. As I can't see myself needing rear remotes for anything else, has anyone ever heard of using a 6 port - 4 function diverter valve to just re-direct flow from the loader bucket tip function to some long hydraulic lines going to the back of the tractor in lieu of remotes? Looking for a cost effective way to start dumping. I'm even considering just extending the trailer's hydraulic lines to reach up to the loader's hydraulic connections and just un-clip the bucket hydraulics to free up those ports when I want to move dirt - "dumping the bucket" would then dump my trailer. The BX would just be a tow vehicle at this point. Thoughts?

 

[/pine]

I would consider a low end hydraulic 12 volt power unit...then it could be used with any vehicle that could tow it...

Power units are available from about $250...check Surplus Center...

 

[dfkrug]

I think a single-spool rear remote is SOOO useful, and this may be your excuse to do it. However, a 12V power-pack, as SLASH recommends, makes the trailer independent, and that is also a good thing.

Plumbing from the loader would be a distant 3rd choice for me.

 

[killingitcountry]

I would consider a low end hydraulic 12 volt power unit...then it could be used with any vehicle that could tow it...

Power units are available from about $250...check Surplus Center...

I should have mentioned - I definitely want the tractor hydraulics to do the lifting.

 

[Zebrafive]

I second adding rear SCV(s)

 

[Michael In Tennessee]

Your idea will work, cheapest is to repurpose you curl circuit with some long hoses. However, I agree a rear remote is darned handy.

 

[bcp]

Haven't looked for years, but IIRC, the BX loader valve is internal. The joystick is just a remote control for it. Kubota's optional rear remotes plumb into the transmission case.

Bruce

 

[Michael In Tennessee]

Yes, but at some point there is a set of disconnects so the loader can be removed. Tie in there.

 

[bcp]

Yes, but at some point there is a set of disconnects so the loader can be removed. Tie in there.

That's the least expensive way.

I just wanted to explain that there is not a loader valve at the bottom of the joystick.

Bruce

 

[killingitcountry]

Okay you guys win - I went with remotes. They turned out awesome. I'll upload a video tomorrow.

- James

 

[LD1]

Glad you went with a remote.

Not sure what implements you are planning now or in the future....but a hydraulic toplink is a nice addition. And since you are in Canada I assume you get snow. What are your removal means. Do you use tractor? Because a rear blade that angles with hydraulics is a nice asset, as would be a blower with hydraulic chute rotation. So dont discount the usefulness of rear remotes.

But word of caution using a dump trailer with tractor hydraulics.....Most hydraulic 12v units run 3000-3500PSI. Your tractor is probably ~2500psi range. So you wont generate near the dump force. So slowly work up how full you fill the trailer because there isnt much worse than having to manually unload material from a dump trailer.

Also, pay attention to your hose routing so it dont get snagged when turning and maneuvering the trailer.

I have a 7x12' 12k dump. I put quick couplers on the 12v pump unit and made up some hoses to run off my remotes. Its nice being able to dump from the seat of the tractor and not have to worry about dead batteries. So my above advice is from experience.

 

[killingitcountry]

Glad you went with a remote.

Not sure what implements you are planning now or in the future....but a hydraulic toplink is a nice addition. And since you are in Canada I assume you get snow. What are your removal means. Do you use tractor? Because a rear blade that angles with hydraulics is a nice asset, as would be a blower with hydraulic chute rotation. So dont discount the usefulness of rear remotes.

But word of caution using a dump trailer with tractor hydraulics.....Most hydraulic 12v units run 3000-3500PSI. Your tractor is probably ~2500psi range. So you wont generate near the dump force. So slowly work up how full you fill the trailer because there isnt much worse than having to manually unload material from a dump trailer.

Also, pay attention to your hose routing so it dont get snagged when turning and maneuvering the trailer.

I have a 7x12' 12k dump. I put quick couplers on the 12v pump unit and made up some hoses to run off my remotes. Its nice being able to dump from the seat of the tractor and not have to worry about dead batteries. So my above advice is from experience.

Fantastic post, thanks for that! I currently have a front mount BX2755HD blower with hydraulic rotation and electric deflection. I also have a B2060 plow adapted to my loader quick attach. Angling rear blade would be sweet too add one day.

I fully expect that the BX will not generate the required force to dump a full load. One of my upcoming videos will be about determining what the trailer is capable of dumping when powered by the BX. I will line the trailer with a piece of plastic and start to fill it with water incrementally ... trying to dump occasionally to see when I have exceeded the tractor's capabilities. If the trailer even starts to tilt, then I know it will dump it the whole way - so I can just lower it and keep filling. It will be easy to calculate the weight of the water based on depth and areas.

Thanks again!

- James