Amazon created a concrete shortage

[ruffdog]

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[Dftodd]

We have an amazon fulfillment center that just went in next to my work.

The morning commute has turned into a game of frogger with cars trying to get to work.

They hired a bunch of bloody idiots that can't seem to make it in for their shift on time.

And it's the same at all three exits off the interstate for the industrial complex. I've started leaving for work 10 minutes earlier to avoid the log jam. Which puts me at work 45 minutes early. But cuts out the 10 to 15 minutes just to get off the interstate and travel the 1 mile to the office. I started bringing my breakfast to work, instead of eating it before I leave.

Bloody idiots are passing in the break down lane, the center turn lane, and running the lights. Passing multiple vehicles at once. Sometimes you'll be passed on both sides at the same time.

We've put in multiple calls to the sheriff department but hasn't helped with the idiots.

Then there are the wannabe street racers that work there. We've already had one vehicle roll when they missed the corner.

 

[jyoutz]

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Not very common

 

[TractorGuy]

We have an amazon fulfillment center that just went in next to my work.

The morning commute has turned into a game of frogger with cars trying to get to work.

They hired a bunch of bloody idiots that can't seem to make it in for their shift on time.

And it's the same at all three exits off the interstate for the industrial complex. I've started leaving for work 10 minutes earlier to avoid the log jam. Which puts me at work 45 minutes early. But cuts out the 10 to 15 minutes just to get off the interstate and travel the 1 mile to the office. I started bringing my breakfast to work, instead of eating it before I leave.

Bloody idiots are passing in the break down lane, the center turn lane, and running the lights. Passing multiple vehicles at once. Sometimes you'll be passed on both sides at the same time.

We've put in multiple calls to the sheriff department but hasn't helped with the idiots.

Then there are the wannabe street racers that work there. We've already had one vehicle roll when they missed the corner.

That is what will happen here. Plus the influx of new people.

We had a well balanced community with plenty of jobs and not too much congestion. My only saving grace is I am retired and I can just go the opposite way to Georgia for my shopping. The younger working class will get stuck in the traffic jams and be stressed out when they get to work.

I just hate seeing a well balanced community destroyed by greed and bad decisions by a few. I could give a damn if packages arrive earlier if the cost is heavy traffic and foolish drivers.

 

[3 Horse Ranch]

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That was during a previous political climate as the article is dated Jan. 2016.

 

[DieselBound]

Exactly. If anything, Calming residential development is a better idea than stifling commercial expansion.
Residences consume far more services than their tax revenues pay for. Commercial development typically had a net positive effect on revenue/services.

A lot of residential is just money-funneling via corporate entities. Money that's being crammed into the system via the Fed. If you think this is good just wait to see what's around the corner!

One day we'll be able to use these commercial "developments" for housing, so I guess it all comes around!

 

[DieselBound]

Everyone is right. But, it's a matter of timing! Those stating BOOM are right because it's happening now. But, nothing lasts forever, in which case the other side of the coin will come up.

There's always a flurry, until there is not. Over-saturation WILL happen.

 

[Diggin It]

How many vacant factories, steel mills, chemical plants, hospitals, schools, shopping malls, office centers, skyscrapers and other places are empty rotting hulks now that were once booming and growing at rapid rates? Yes, these hubs will follow in becoming vacant rotting hulks.


My opposition in situations like the OP is that they put hardships on everyone else that may be trying to build something now. Highway departments often set up mobile concrete plants during large projects. The Zon has their own fleet of trucks and planes. Why can't they buy a fleet of concrete trucks and set up their own mobile plants at these construction sites?

One day we'll be able to use these commercial "developments" for housing, so I guess it all comes around!

That's being done on some places, or at least proposed. Northland Center in suburban Detroit is one. It was one of the first shopping centers in the country, having been started in the 50s or 60 and closed in the 90s sometime. Plans are for a mix of office, residential, retail and green space as a self supporting community.


Vacant Wally Worlds? Check any number of small towns around the country and you'll find at least one. They came in, built a big store, undercut prices of local retailers that eventually caused them to close. Then built new, bigger stores outside of town to get away from the tax regulations and closed the first store, leaving it and the town center to rot, earning them the well deserved moniker of 'town killer'. I refuse to shop there.

 

[DieselBound]

One thing to note is that concrete manufacturing requires a lot of electricity and materials. It's not a given that there's enough available to scale up. Just like with the port congestion, I believe that scaling up is a bad idea because this is all but a spike, perhaps the last one.

I've been on the edge of whether to build a new house or not. It's looking like it won't be possible. I hate things being "iffy"- I'm prepared either way, but I don't have a lot of time to commit to being in limbo. I'm mentally prepared to accept it being a no-go: though I really want to (but "want" isn't "need"). I have ample reasons to accept not building: keep cash in my pockets; less strains on the body (this might be the best reason- my body is starting to tell me that my mind is forgetting about it); more free time to do other things (mess around on the property; experience joy through my dog, and, when she's not concocting a bunch of make-work for me, my wife); no worry over HVAC designs and how I can retain a wood stove (our current heating costs are for fuel for saws and such- that's it); less property taxes (that is, not increased taxes such that I'd encounter with new building). I'd still have plenty of remodeling of the existing house, so no escaping that.

Fundamentals: Food, Shelter and Water. Note that Amazon distribution centers aren't in that list

 

[jyoutz]

How many vacant factories, steel mills, chemical plants, hospitals, schools, shopping malls, office centers, skyscrapers and other places are empty rotting hulks now that were once booming and growing at rapid rates? Yes, these hubs will follow in becoming vacant rotting hulks.


My opposition in situations like the OP is that they put hardships on everyone else that may be trying to build something now. Highway departments often set up mobile concrete plants during large projects. The Zon has their own fleet of trucks and planes. Why can't they buy a fleet of concrete trucks and set up their own mobile plants at these construction sites?




That's being done on some places, or at least proposed. Northland Center in suburban Detroit is one. It was one of the first shopping centers in the country, having been started in the 50s or 60 and closed in the 90s sometime. Plans are for a mix of office, residential, retail and green space as a self supporting community.


Vacant Wally Worlds? Check any number of small towns around the country and you'll find at least one. They came in, built a big store, undercut prices of local retailers that eventually caused them to close. Then built new, bigger stores outside of town to get away from the tax regulations and closed the first store, leaving it and the town center to rot, earning them the well deserved moniker of 'town killer'. I refuse to shop there.

Most local retailers demise is of their own fault. Small businesses still operate as if it’s 1970. They are closed when I drive to work in the morning, and closed when I drive home in late afternoon. So I shop at Wally World and other big boxes because they are actually open in the evenings when I have time to shop. I hear the same story from many other folks. Busy people often don’t have time to shop during the hours of 8-5. We can’t buy anything from a business that is closed.