Americans do not appreciate good food...

/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #101  
Never any issues with quality. Though summertime we tend let the oysters lay. Old rule...harvest oysters in the months with ‘R’s.
I grow triploids for those months which is what you get in a restaurant.
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #102  
I'll beg to differ. I think I can safely say I have eaten more seafood all over the world (5 continents) at fine eating establishments for 30+ years than most anyone. I travel internationally on business regularly. I think my palate is 'educated'.

Warmer waters include SE Asia and Australia by the way.

Oi! Tassie (and NZ) is not exactly the tropics.

The next stop South is Antarctica.
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #104  
Perhaps it would be easier to list what you don't like? ;) We were talking about being prepared for emergencies and unexpected nights in the woods, and my boss suggested keeping something in the truck which we aren't fond of so that we wouldn't eat it for a regular meal. The only thing that I could think of that met the bill was Lima beans... Bleah! One can of those is a lifetime supply.

Actually I've heard the recommendation of using canned cat/dog food for that purpose..... which in my case is one of the few things I think even I'd have to be pretty hungry to willingly eat. I may eat and a enjoy a wide variety of foods, but I greatly prefer they be of high quality, good flavor and actually meant for human consumption.
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #105  
Actually I've heard the recommendation of using canned cat/dog food for that purpose..... which in my case is one of the few things I think even I'd have to be pretty hungry to willingly eat. I may eat and a enjoy a wide variety of foods, but I greatly prefer they be of high quality, good flavor and actually meant for human consumption.
I won't even feed my dog that crap... although I'm sure that he would love it. It tends to give a dog gas.
In my truck I carry an MRE and extra gallon of water. In summer I also have 4 cans of tuna fish, a can of string beans, jar of peanut butter, and a can of unsweetened pineapple. The last is one of the best ways to rehydrate that I know of.
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #106  
Being a land locked Okie, I guess I'll get in my 2cents worth. Those of you who have access to fresh, wild caught seafood don't know how lucky you are. I grew up on channel catfish from our big lakes, and an occasional trout from the streams in Missouri, but my experiences with seafood were not so hot. Dad liked fried shrimp, but it almost always came frozen and I wasn't a big fan. One year we took a trip to Freeport Texas, and an off shore fishing expedition to fish for Red Snapper. I took home a freezer full of Snapper, and when fried up, it was the most magnificent fish I had ever eaten! It went straight from the boat, to being cleaned and then into the ice chest. I have never eaten anything like it since, although I have ordered Snapper in restaurants a couple times since, with great disappointment. Same with shrimp; we have purchased fresh shrimp from the roadside vendors and it has always been wonderful. I also love fresh oysters (cooked only), especially cooked in the half shell on the charcoal grill.

I think the only really good seafood I ever ate in a restaurant was in Shreveport Louisiana, "Bobs" I believe it was called. Oh, yeah, and in Calabash N. Carolina I believe it was.
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #107  
We are blessed to live on a salt water beach and catch Dungeness crabs, prawns, clams, salmon, and oysters!

Never any issues with quality. Though summertime we tend let the oysters lay. Old rule...harvest oysters in the months with 然痴.
I mostly follow the R's rule too, and i agree, the seafood around here is fantastic!
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #108  
... One year we took a trip to Freeport Texas, and an off shore fishing expedition to fish for Red Snapper...
American Red Snapper is indeed a top quality fin fish for table fare...it tastes like it already has butter on it...!
A little lighter in texture but equal or better in taste is black grouper and scamp...lightly fried or broiled it has few if any equals...(similar but a little less firm than halibut, more tasty than cod)...

Another less known fish outside of Gulf coastal areas (except to top notch chefs and 5 star restaurant patrons) is the Pompano...often called one of the tastiest fishes in the sea...prepared in a parchment bag it is often a signature dish in many top rated restaurants (like Antoine's in New Orleans).

On a side note for those that like 'Hush Puppies' with their fried fish....try using orange juice as the liquefier when making the batter...
 
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/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #109  
American Red Snapper is indeed a top quality fin fish for table fare...it tastes like it already has butter on it...!
A little lighter in texture but equal or better in taste is black grouper and scamp...lightly fried or broiled it has few if any equals...(similar but a little less firm than halibut, more tasty than cod)...

Another less known fish outside of Gulf coastal areas (except to top notch chefs and 5 star restaurant patrons) is the Pompano...often called one of the tastiest fishes in the sea...prepared in a parchment bag it is often a signature dish in many top rated restaurants (like Antoine's in New Orleans).


My favorite fish is Mahi. ... I like grouper and snapper.. buff Mahi is on the menu, that's my dinner. Basic broiled with a little lemon and a bun. A good friend of mine says I need to try Wahoo as that is his favorite.
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #110  
I won't even feed my dog that crap... although I'm sure that he would love it. It tends to give a dog gas.
In my truck I carry an MRE and extra gallon of water. In summer I also have 4 cans of tuna fish, a can of string beans, jar of peanut butter, and a can of unsweetened pineapple. The last is one of the best ways to rehydrate that I know of.

Wish I could do that -- pretty sure any food left in my truck during the summer would be cooked (or steamed) by mid-afternoon. Instead, I've started slipping a Cliff Barr in my pocket when I'm going somewhere or doing something where there's a chance of being beyond a reasonable walking distance from either work or home (also allows me to keep a rotating stock on hand).
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #111  
My favorite fish is Mahi. ... I like grouper and snapper.. buff Mahi is on the menu, that's my dinner. Basic broiled with a little lemon and a bun. A good friend of mine says I need to try Wahoo as that is his favorite.

I don't care that much for dolphin (aka Mahi) it has to be super fresh...but I totally agree about the Wahoo...it is by far the tastiest of all the pelagic fishes known for table fare...Also one of the funnest to catch...they are as fast as sailfish...
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #112  
I don't care that much for dolphin (aka Mahi) it has to be super fresh...but I totally agree about the Wahoo...it is by far the tastiest of all the pelagic fishes known for table fare...Also one of the funnest to catch...they are as fast as sailfish...

A couple years ago we were in Key West and went fishing. ..Came back with 40 pounds of Amberjack ...first time I had that.. It was definitely good.. Also caught Mahi in Maui..as fresh as you can get and yes..it's better than 3 day old that you find at the market or 1 -+ week old frozen that the restraints have.
 
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#113  
Monkfish is popular in Europe as a firm white flesh, we don't get it so don't know what it is like.
What we hate is cheap Asian fish being passed off as barramundi, and travelling several hundred kilometres inland you see a place advertising fresh seafood :confused: :confused::confused:
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #114  
A couple years ago we were in Key West and went fishing. ..Came back with 40 pounds of Amberjack ...first time I had that.. It was definitely good.. Also caught Mahi in Maui..as fresh as you can get and yes..it's better than 3 day old that you find at the market or 1 -+ week old frozen that the restraints have.

IMO Amberjack is good for cat food... the only ones I ever found palatable were less than 24"...I think the minimum legal size is 34"...until there was a huge craze for "blackened amberjack" hit the Atlanta-NY eatery market they sold for less than a $1/pound...Now I think they may have game fish status...but IMO the meat is course and grainy...smoked is another popular way of cooking...

True story:...Once when we were well offshore bottom fishing a school of big dolphins (mahi mahi) came through chasing a big school of flying fish...one dolphin hit one of our flat lines (surface bait) that was rigged for sails...the dolphin was horsed into the boat and in no more than 40 seconds two fillets were removed from the fish and the carcase was tossed back and actually tried swimming off...the fillets were skinned, fingered and iced and fried for lunch within the next hour or so...!
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #115  
IMO Amberjack is good for cat food... the only ones I ever found palatable were less than 24"...I think the minimum legal size is 34"...until there was a huge craze for "blackened amberjack" hit the Atlanta-NY eatery market they sold for less than a $1/pound...Now I think they may have game fish status...but IMO the meat is course and grainy...smoked is another popular way of cooking...

True story:...Once when we were well offshore bottom fishing a school of big dolphins (mahi mahi) came through chasing a big school of flying fish...one dolphin hit one of our flat lines (surface bait) that was rigged for sails...the dolphin was horsed into the boat and in no more than 40 seconds two fillets were removed from the fish and the carcase was tossed back and actually tried swimming off...the fillets were skinned, fingered and iced and fried for lunch within the next hour or so...!

Last summer we were at a friends house warming party. They had a group of guys from their local rod and gun club outside frying fresh haddock. Big tubs of it cut up into thin paying card side pieces. Basically finger food size. I don’t know what their recipe was for the light batter/breading or what type of oil they were using but it’s the best haddock I have ever had. Those guys were pros.
 
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Another abomination is the chicken parma, essentially a chicken snitty covered with a slice of 'quality' ham and cheese then grilled, served with the ubiquitous chips pre salted so you have to buy a drink.
They range from acceptable to awful depending up[on the venue, just about every pub in the country serves this, they are also huge, about the size of a dinner plate, I can't eat a whole one then they always ask what was wrong with it.
Pizzas are another lottery, a lot have way too much on them and more cheese than can be good for you, a soggy greasy offering, the franchises are the worst offenders but it seems that more cheese is a better product.

*Snitty, local term for schnitzel.
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #117  
Another abomination is the chicken parma, essentially a chicken snitty covered with a slice of 'quality' ham and cheese then grilled, served with the ubiquitous chips pre salted so you have to buy a drink.
They range from acceptable to awful depending up[on the venue, just about every pub in the country serves this, they are also huge, about the size of a dinner plate, I can't eat a whole one then they always ask what was wrong with it.
Pizzas are another lottery, a lot have way too much on them and more cheese than can be good for you, a soggy greasy offering, the franchises are the worst offenders but it seems that more cheese is a better product.

*Snitty, local term for schnitzel.

As I said in this post earlier..I'm a very simple eater.. what's on my plate is easily identifiable by any passer by. I have a local Bar/restaurant where we can be found 2 or 3x a week. Good clean fresh food, nothing with special glaze or drizzle etc. By now I have had basically everything on the menu at least once. Only 2x I got something I was less than happy about. One was a seafood platter... it looked good as it went by going to another table so I signed up for it....big pile of fried stuff....killed my stomach and I couldn't eat 1/2 of it. .. second going was some Mexican chicken wrap thing... it sounded good at the time...but had a few bites and covered the rest with my napkin. ..pizza...as I get older I find I eat less of it and now really don't like the Greak style that so many places have.. I'm more of a small thin bar style fan ...Well done and not too much red sauce on it.... red sauce = heart burn at bed time.
 
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Many moons ago I was in a motel and hungry, a KFC ad came on for hot and spicy, people eating it bit into the chicken and there was a crunch and then they felt the effects of the 'hot and spicy', now, I like anything hot and spicy and although I should have known better I went out and bought some, it looked OK but when I bit into it there was no crunch, just a squishing noise like squashing a semi deflated whoopee cushion followed by a stream of grease running down my chin, as for the hot and spicy, I'm still waiting for the kick.
That was in about 2004 and I haven't been back since.
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #119  
Many moons ago I was in a motel and hungry, a KFC ad came on for hot and spicy, people eating it bit into the chicken and there was a crunch and then they felt the effects of the 'hot and spicy', now, I like anything hot and spicy and although I should have known better I went out and bought some, it looked OK but when I bit into it there was no crunch, just a squishing noise like squashing a semi deflated whoopee cushion followed by a stream of grease running down my chin, as for the hot and spicy, I'm still waiting for the kick.
That was in about 2004 and I haven't been back since.

I don't eat fast food. ....I think those places should give you a roll of Charmin instead of napkins with your meal....seams like it would get more use.
 
/ Americans do not appreciate good food... #120  
This comes across as more of a regional bias than an educated palate...!

But that can be said about most of the opinions expressed here. Lots of regional favorites that don't travel well if you weren't raised with them. Most southern dishes fall in that category for me. Rocky mountain oysters, brain sandwiches, poutine, and Moxie aren't exactly mainstream items either (I do like Moxie, the other stuff not so much).
 

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