Another 2305 vs 2320 question

[Staghead]

I have gotten some price quotes (only 2 dealers)for these two models with the same attachments/setup (tractor, loader and tiller-no mower). I am finding that the difference between models at about $1700.

Configurator difference is right about $2000. I take that to mean the dealers are willing to discount the 2320 more than the 2305 from list? That seems inconsistent from what I have read in other posts.

By my calcualtions the offers I got would be ~14% off list for the 2320 and ~13% for the 2305 (does that sound like a fair deal?). Not a large difference but I found it interesting.

I had been leaning to the 2305 and getting a mower, but may now get the 2320 without the mower for about the same price.....or I may skip the tiller, get a BB and the mower.....to many decisions. I would like to stay around $16000 pre tax.

 

[lgcivttu]

After operating both of them, I prefer the 2305. I think it is a better value. A tractor is only as useful as it's implements. When you start taking off attachments just to get a larger frame size tractor you need to ask yourself what are you going to do with that larger size with less attachments?

 

[turbo36]

I moving up to the 2320 ( and selling a 2305 with low hours) because I want the larger frame and the full cat 1 capabilities. The rear implements hang pretty low on the 2305 and I'm tired of the back blade hitting the ground when I'm operating on uneven terrain.

From the pricing I got 15% on the 2320 is the norm and slightly less for the 2305.

 

[JDFANATIC]

staghead,

I think you need to stay focused on what your needs are less than the $'s! A few thousand over the years that you will be using the equipment is really insignificant (I know, I know, try telling the wife that!).

The 2305 is a wonderful sub-CUT. It's power to weight ratio is exceptional. It is a great mowing machine with an exceptional turning radius (with the 62C you should expect an uncut circle of 36").

The 2320 is a wonderful small frame CUT. It's power to weight ratio is good, though not as good as the 2305. It's high range really scoots along -- I wouldn't be surprised if it is 4-5 mph faster than the 2305. This may cause problems if you mow or use the tractor on a lot of slopes, as you may have to go to low-range more than the 2305 would and may find the low-range too slow for your liking. The full Cat-1 is nice with position control which makes a box blade (as you mention above) much easier to use. The fold-down ROPS is also nice to have. Now I don't have much seat time on the 2320, but on a tractor I test drove, it was more stable on slopes than the 2305 (my frame of reference is with both having loaded tires with the loaders on). The hydraulics on the 2320 also operate at a higher psi, and with two separate pumps will have faster loader cycle times. Also you get the ability to have a Deere Back Hoe as an option.

If I were you, I would spend some seat time with both; think about your future needs, and then make a decision based on that, less than on the $'s.

Happy hunting!

 

[Staghead]

I fully plan on some seat time before I make my final decision. I have only sat on each one in a dealer lot a pretended to move at this point (my 2 year old thought it was a blast and didn't want to leave!). Based on ergonomics alone I do like the 2320 more.
As I read my post it does appear the money is the main focus, but it really isn't. It may affect how soon I purchase my tractor, but it really won't play that much into which model I ultimately get. The 2305 would suit my current needs, but if we move or I think of more projects/uses I think the larger frame would be nice. Right now my gut is leaning to the 2320, so I would guess that is what I end up.

It does bring up another question I have though. I haven't been following the trends close enough or long enough to get a feeling on financing. Do the financing offers come and go or is it more of a "Wow, the offers in place now are better than ever and you need to take advantage of it"? I don't want to get caught up in any games in that regard or miss the boat either.

Thanks for all the input. I read something new and interesting in these forums every day. Enough so that I almost feel like I already own a tractor. I did say almost!

 

[ducati996]

Deere offers Zero percent Now - based on recent Fed trends, that wont last forever

 

[JDFANATIC]

Duc,

Excellent point. With all that has gone on in this country financially, I'm surprised Deere is still offering 0%/3yrs.

 

[mrjohnnydeere]

HI I have a 2305 and it is a nice little tractor but it is little ,the good thing about being little is you wont mark your lawn. If you get the 2305 take a look at where there the oil filter is for the transfer case it is on the very bottom of the tractor so you have to watch where you put the tractor or you will put a hole in the filter .you might want to add a skid plate.

 

[megotatractor]

JDfanatic has a point about hydraulics. I find my 2210 hydraulics to be a bit frustrating and sluggish when scooping snow with the FEL. For this reason, if I decide to continue using a FEL for snow, I would trade up to the 2320. the 2210 is great for mowing, cutting 3 acres in less than two hours.

 

[RalphVa]

If you have to go into very uneven terrain or go brush hogging into heavy brush, you should go with the extra ground clearance on the 2320 and not have a plastic cooling fan down below.

For me, it was a no brainer when I looked at a 2210 and a 4010. The 4010 was actually $300 less, and I needed the ground clearance and full Cat. 1 capability. Both took the same attachments, because they are essentially both the same weight and width. The 4010 would lift more in front and in the back though.

For the 2305 and 2320, there is no hp difference either.

Does the 2320 have 3 ph position control, or is this only on the 2520? That would be a plus over the 2305.

Ralph

 

[JDFANATIC]

Ralph,

Just so glad you brought up this point . . . today I was brush-hogging with my 2210. The terrain was uneven, the conditions tough, but the branches of my MORE than 14 pto hp machine easily chewed into regrind . . . but there was a trade-off, and it would soon lead to disaster . . . and what do you suppose it was? Not the $! Not the 3PH lift! Not the plastic cooling fan! And not even the cupholder, stocked with the biggest gulp you have ever seen, no, it was the valve stem! Who would have guessed? Yes, 110 lbs of RimGuard scattered over an acre and a half. Beetjuice, who would have guessed?

 

[ovrszd]

Ralph,

Just so glad you brought up this point . . . today I was brush-hogging with my 2210. The terrain was uneven, the conditions tough, but the branches of my MORE than 14 pto hp machine easily chewed into regrind . . . but there was a trade-off, and it would soon lead to disaster . . . and what do you suppose it was? Not the $! Not the 3PH lift! Not the plastic cooling fan! And not even the cupholder, stocked with the biggest gulp you have ever seen, no, it was the valve stem! Who would have guessed? Yes, 110 lbs of RimGuard scattered over an acre and a half. Beetjuice, who would have guessed?

I think this post shows a difference, in most cases, between a CUT and a SCUT. Most CUTs have stem guards welded on the rim. Most SCUTs do not.

 

[ducati996]

If you have to go into very uneven terrain or go brush hogging into heavy brush, you should go with the extra ground clearance on the 2320 and not have a plastic cooling fan down below.

For me, it was a no brainer when I looked at a 2210 and a 4010. The 4010 was actually $300 less, and I needed the ground clearance and full Cat. 1 capability. Both took the same attachments, because they are essentially both the same weight and width. The 4010 would lift more in front and in the back though.

For the 2305 and 2320, there is no hp difference either.

Does the 2320 have 3 ph position control, or is this only on the 2520? That would be a plus over the 2305.

Ralph

You're too much with this 2210 vs 4010 feud - LOL

I seriously doubt the 4010 had any advantage over the 2210 in lifting ability -keeping in mind the 4010 did not have the flow rate or PSI rate of its bigger brothers (4110 & 4115) - I could be wrong but I have easy access to a 4010, and it was not up to 4100 -4110 speed or strength. I would say its still a great machine and is equal with the 2210 in hydrolic ability. It has an height advantage - I forget if it had position control
2320 has position control and so does the 2520. The 2305 & 2320 use the same engine - so no HP difference but it has plenty of power.

 

[Hard]

The 2305 & 2320 use the same engine - so no HP difference but it has plenty of power.

yep yep...plenty o' power

 

[circlelake]

Hey JDFanatic
Lost the valve stem on my 2305 last Saturday pushing a brush pile.

 

[johndeere_2210]

Ralph,

Just so glad you brought up this point . . . today I was brush-hogging with my 2210. The terrain was uneven, the conditions tough, but the branches of my MORE than 14 pto hp machine easily chewed into regrind . . . but there was a trade-off, and it would soon lead to disaster . . . and what do you suppose it was? Not the $! Not the 3PH lift! Not the plastic cooling fan! And not even the cupholder, stocked with the biggest gulp you have ever seen, no, it was the valve stem! Who would have guessed? Yes, 110 lbs of RimGuard scattered over an acre and a half. Beetjuice, who would have guessed?

How did you get the bush-hogging finished with the tractor down? Was Jack at FVE able to loan you a 4010 to complete the task? LOL

 

[JDFANATIC]

How did you get the bush-hogging finished with the tractor down? Was Jack at FVE able to loan you a 4010 to complete the task? LOL

JD,

The subject never came up (he did want me to take the 3720 cab tractor home though)

circlelake,

Were your tires loaded?

 

[ducati996]

How did you get the bush-hogging finished with the tractor down? Was Jack at FVE able to loan you a 4010 to complete the task? LOL

Now with the high output 14 PTO hp - I think if you took off all the hood components, seat (since you wont need the whole seat, only the edge) rops, a string on the governor, keep it in neutral down a hill you might be able to get one revolution on the brush hog, and knock over a blade of grass....and call it a day LOL

 

[Anjou]

Duc,

Excellent point. With all that has gone on in this country financially, I'm surprised Deere is still offering 0%/3yrs.

Is it reasonable to assume that the Deere 0% financing for 3 years will continue at least through the rest of the Winter? I've been trying to talk my wife into letting me buy a 2210/2305 for the past 2 years. She seems fixated on spending our funds to finish the house so we can move out of the dungeon, as she calls it. Go figure.

 

[ducati996]

Is it reasonable to assume that the Deere 0% financing for 3 years will continue at least through the rest of the Winter? .

Assume nothing lasts - who would want to loan money and not make any in return? especially when the Fed keeps raising it?