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Think you got the wording wrong there Ray.........Old songs do not come from the 60's only classics......old songs are from the 30's 40"s:laughing::thumbsup:
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I used to work in the aircraft industry in the UK and had Top Secret security clearance.......... but that was a long time ago...Think they stopped making planes out of baling wire and wood now.:laughing:
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If I'm not mistaken 1966(????)
Okay I won't tell you dfifferently. I will suggest you start getting your news from someone other than: Russian-state owned media network RT the Wikileaks source. Some people also believe in Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy. I am not one of the believers, the FBI, CIA or any other government agencies is spying on people, or Santa Claus, The Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy.
Given the technology available today and the mind set of countless individuals, posting photographs of self or family members were anyone with web access can copy and print does not sound like a good idea to me. I don't worry about someone in government missusing the information or data, but I do worry about others in our modern day society searching for such information and missusing it for financial gain.
Rich Waugh
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It's astonishing how many people will post pictures of themselves getting ready to leave for vacation and neglect to remove the GPS data from them - make sit super simple for any burglar to know when you'll be gone and where you live. Yes, FB is one place where that happens a lot, but it happens on all the others, too.
As for the "gummint" using private security cameras in a big conspiracy - nope won't fly. I was a police administrator for years and I know who does and doesn't do that sort of thing. Our government isn't one of them to any degree - yet. It will ultimately happen, though not as a conspiracy, but like Great Britain does for policing and domestic security. A number of Interpol nations do use facial recognition software in conjunction with public and private security cameras to try to identify wanted terrorists and the like, but there are limits to what can be done with the typical low-resolution images from most private CCTV images. High-res cameras like those used for public safety operations are a different matter. It's amazing how well some of the FR algorithms can work, given sufficiently detailed images.
In the US it is more likely that you'll see limited tracking of individuals through RFID chips in drivers' licenses, credit cards and the like. There are already companies trying to peddle systems using RFID transceivers mounted in traffic signals to track people, but the number-crunching requirements are pretty huge still, and virtually all the people I've talked with are wary of it due to political considerations. Tough to get that one accepted by the public. They will get it done one of these days, though. 1984 may have come and gone largely unnoticed, but Orwell's vision is steadily coming to pass as people allow legislators to increasingly encroach on the Constitution. But FB funded by the FBI and CIA for domestic spying? Don't be gullible! Though at the rate FB share prices are plunging from their IPO price, you could easily think the government was involved - nobody else loses money as fast as our gummint. (grin)
I am no longer surprised much by the silly stuff the people will read on the internet and wholeheartedly swallow. The goofy conspiracy theories out there are myriad and bizarre. No one who has ever chaired a committee could believe that that many people could be involved in a conspiracy and have it even vaguely resemble functional. Two people can keep a secret - if one of them is dead. Two hundred or two thousand? It is to laugh. To make one actually function with more than a few people involved beggars the imagination.
As for the "gummint" using private security cameras in a big conspiracy - nope won't fly. I was a police administrator for years and I know who does and doesn't do that sort of thing. Our government isn't one of them to any degree - yet. It will ultimately happen, though not as a conspiracy, but like Great Britain does for policing and domestic security. A number of Interpol nations do use facial recognition software in conjunction with public and private security cameras to try to identify wanted terrorists and the like, but there are limits to what can be done with the typical low-resolution images from most private CCTV images. High-res cameras like those used for public safety operations are a different matter. It's amazing how well some of the FR algorithms can work, given sufficiently detailed images.
In the US it is more likely that you'll see limited tracking of individuals through RFID chips in drivers' licenses, credit cards and the like. There are already companies trying to peddle systems using RFID transceivers mounted in traffic signals to track people, but the number-crunching requirements are pretty huge still, and virtually all the people I've talked with are wary of it due to political considerations. Tough to get that one accepted by the public. They will get it done one of these days, though. 1984 may have come and gone largely unnoticed, but Orwell's vision is steadily coming to pass as people allow legislators to increasingly encroach on the Constitution. But FB funded by the FBI and CIA for domestic spying? Don't be gullible! Though at the rate FB share prices are plunging from their IPO price, you could easily think the government was involved - nobody else loses money as fast as our gummint. (grin)
I am no longer surprised much by the silly stuff the people will read on the internet and wholeheartedly swallow. The goofy conspiracy theories out there are myriad and bizarre. No one who has ever chaired a committee could believe that that many people could be involved in a conspiracy and have it even vaguely resemble functional. Two people can keep a secret - if one of them is dead. Two hundred or two thousand? It is to laugh. To make one actually function with more than a few people involved beggars the imagination.
quicksandfarmer
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Rich, I think things are a little further along than you think. It's gotten incredibly easy for law enforcement agencies to get wiretaps, the phone companies have stopped fighting it and now see it as a source of revenue. They charge about $250 and make hundreds of millions a year from it, as long as the agencies pay the telcos have no problem turning their customers over. In the age of cell phones it means that they're turning over your whereabouts at all times in addition to a record of everyone you've talked to. Many agencies have given up on the pretense that a warrant is necessary for wiretapping, which is just as well because courts have given up on the pretense that their job is to verify the validity of requests for warrants.
I'm a technologist, and it's hard for me to remember a technology more over-hyped than facial recognition. However, character recognition is real and license plate scanners are out there tracking your every move. The records are kept for up to three years. Read this article for more info: License plate readers: A useful tool for police comes with privacy concerns - The Washington Post
I agree that for the most part these systems produce far more information than can be used and most people have nothing to worry about. However, if I were involved in a personal dispute with a police officer, or a political dispute with a police official, I would be very worried. There is essentially no oversight of how these systems are used.
I'm a technologist, and it's hard for me to remember a technology more over-hyped than facial recognition. However, character recognition is real and license plate scanners are out there tracking your every move. The records are kept for up to three years. Read this article for more info: License plate readers: A useful tool for police comes with privacy concerns - The Washington Post
I agree that for the most part these systems produce far more information than can be used and most people have nothing to worry about. However, if I were involved in a personal dispute with a police officer, or a political dispute with a police official, I would be very worried. There is essentially no oversight of how these systems are used.
Rich Waugh
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That's pretty much my feelings too, Bob. I'm just not significant enough to be a target for much of anyone.
As for government excesses with wiretapping and surveillance, that's been going on much longer than most people realize and is getting worse by the day. Ever since the inception of Homeland (in)Security, the gummint has been steadily infringing on citizens' Constitutional rights and itwil only get much worse unless the peope raise a realy hue and cry about it. With our rabidly conservative, right-wing Supreme Court, anything is possible.
As for government excesses with wiretapping and surveillance, that's been going on much longer than most people realize and is getting worse by the day. Ever since the inception of Homeland (in)Security, the gummint has been steadily infringing on citizens' Constitutional rights and itwil only get much worse unless the peope raise a realy hue and cry about it. With our rabidly conservative, right-wing Supreme Court, anything is possible.
