Another SCUT w/ Backhoe Thread

[ZTMAN]

Sounds like you are getting the 1025r. Make sure you tell them you want the tires filled (no charge). Keep us posted.

 

[kelchm]

Sounds like you are getting the 1025r. Make sure you tell them you want the tires filled (no charge). Keep us posted.

Just trying to decide what implements I want to roll into the 0% financing. Tough decision because the frontier implements are pretty pricey.

 

[atsah]

Just trying to decide what implements I want to roll into the 0% financing. Tough decision because the frontier implements are pretty pricey.

Can you roll in other brand implements that the dealer may sell?

 

[ZTMAN]

My understanding is that the JD SCUT ability to accept certain implements is brand specific. Might want to ask the dealer if that is true, and if so, to what implements that applies to. The Frontier rotary mower they sell for the SCUT looks pretty heavy duty. If you are going to get them, might as well get them know if you have a use.

 

[atsah]

My understanding is that the JD SCUT ability to accept certain implements is brand specific.

The JD loader pins are specific but any cat 1 implement should work just fine on the 3ph..

 

[ThirdMan]

The JD loader pins are specific but any cat 1 implement should work just fine on the 3ph..

The 1025R has a limited category 1 3pt. Some implements won't work.

 

[atsah]

The 1025R has a limited category 1 3pt. Some implements won't work.

Interesting, I had no idea, I figured it was like the rest of the SCUT's..

 

[rngrrymd]

The 1025R has a limited category 1 3pt. Some implements won't work.

Found this on that GREEN tractor board that I can't post links to here on TBN. This post was from "Ransx77" Back in 2013 which is why it references the older 1026R:

This info is spread out all over the web, but I thought it would be helpful to put it all in one place, and perhaps it will become a sticky.

So I have a1026R. I am looking for a box blade and a land rake, and in order to get what will work best for me I've gone around and around trying to find the REAL differences between cat 1 and limited cat 1. Surprisingly, many tractor sales people don't know the difference. I just had a Deere salesman yesterday tell me that lower link spacing is smaller on Cat1 limited. NOT TRUE! The only difference is a matter of height due to the smaller wheels on some SCUTS.

This is what John Deere says:
"The limited Category 1, 3-point hitch is standard for quick hookup of 3-point hitch implements. Industry-standard link and connecting point specifications for Category 1 hitches are met, allowing implements to easily connect to the tractor. However, the low profile of the 1023E and 1026R may prevent the hitch from lifting some implements to the minimum height prescribed by the Category 1 standard. Thus, the word limited is added to the description."

These are the standard dimensions.
Category - Hitch pin size - - - - - Hitch pin size - - - - - Lower hitch - - - - -Tractor drawbar power
- - - - - - - - upper link - - - - - - - lower links- - - - - - - spacing
0 - - - - - - - 17 mm (5⁄8") - - - - - 17 mm (5⁄8") - - - - - 500 mm (20") - - - -<15 kW (<20 hp)
1 - - - - - - - 19 mm (3⁄4") - - - - - 22.4 mm (7⁄8") - - - - 718 mm (26") - - - -15-35 kW (20-45 hp)
2 - - - - - - - 25.5 mm (1") - - - - - 28.7 mm (1 1⁄8") - - - 870 mm (32") - - - -30-75 kW (40-100 hp)
3 - - - - - - - 31.75 mm (1 1⁄4") - - 37.4 mm (1 7⁄16")- - -1010 mm (38") - - -60-168 kW (80-225 hp)
4 - - - - - - - 45mm (1 3⁄4") - - - - 51 mm (2") - - - - - - 1220 mm (46") - - -135-300 kW (180-400 hp)

I measured my own 1026R and find that with the iMatch attached it was almost 28" wide at my lower control arms, and there is plenty of flexibility to narrow that.

1026R specs
Rear Type - - - - - - - - - Limited Cat I
Control - - - - - - - - - - position control
Rear lift (at ends) - - - - - 1,433 lbs [650 kg]
Rear lift (at 24"/610mm) - 681 lbs [308 kg]

Some helpful links:
iMatch - https://jdparts.deere.com/partsmkt/d..._quick_coupler
JS Sales Manual - 3-point hitch

If anyone has other info, let's add it to this thread.

 

[atsah]

So that means the Deere SCUT's are the same CAT1 as my Massey SCUT with the same size tires?

 

[kelchm]

This thread on Green Tractor Talk caught my eye.

I'm considering adding either the AV20F 4-in-1 or AY11F Grapple along with the required third function hydraulics option. Not sure which of the two I would get better use out of. If the third function addon was available now I'd consider getting both (with the AV20F 4-in-1 in place of the standard bucket).

Some of the implements I'm considering:

Quick-Hitch 54" Front Blade w/ Hydraulic Angling - $1650
While it'd be nice to have, I feel like I would do just fine using the loader. My driveway is in rough shape and I don't see a blade working very well.

Frontier RT1149 Tiller - $1900
I feel like $1900 is a ton of money to spend on an implement like this. Then again, I'm probably going to have a hard time with doing some of my projects without it.

Also considering a landscape rake and/or box blade, but I haven't gotten pricing yet.

EDIT: well, apparently I can't link to GTT. Here's a link to the press release.