Anvil question

[deereman75]

Well first I'd like to say that after over 2 months, I am back on. Now, to my question. I have found a rusted up, very old 40# stake anvil that I am hoping to buy. Now it is rough, but I think I could get it to be a decent bladesmith anvil. It was looking great until I touched the grinder to see what kind of steel it is. It sparked like old cast iron, but nothing else about it seemed cast. First, it actually rebounds quite well, even with just the bottom of the stake resting on the floor. Second, when hit on the side, it will ring. Third, it seems quite hard, and tough to dent. Finally, it has a saddle back, which seems odd, seeing as any cast anvil I have seen would crack before it took that kind of use. So, here sits an anvil that sparks like cast iron, but everything else seems like steel, not even any porosity. What I am wondering is could this be a good anvil, or would it be a door stop. It sure seems old enough to be something like hardened ductile iron, but I just don't know enough about anvils to tell. Knowing this, what do you think I should offer (if anything). If anyone wants, I can post pictures.

 

[ray66v]

From what I have been told, Between $1.00-$2.00 per pound is the going rate for an anvil.

 

[deereman75]

For a usable anvil, that is about right, although once you see this, you realize even $1 per pound sounds stupid. It would take atleast 20 mins of grinding just to make the face workable. I think I might offer $25 for it, as it might end up a real nice anvil.

 

[Gary Fowler]

If you get a price of $1- $2 per pound for a regular blacksmith anvil jump on it. Depending on the brand, a 120+ pound anvil will sell for $600-over 1000. Even the small 60# or so go or 400-500 bucks I am sure glad I found mine at a pawn shop for $60. I saw one advertised last Sunday in Little Rock Craigslist that was actually only about 2 miles from my home in Bismarck so I thought what the heck maybe someone will sell it cheap. It was the same size as my shop anvil, about 60# and was only $599 so about $10 per pound.
Check some of the prices in Houston Craigslist, the usually have a guy in there advertising.

 

[deereman75]

Likely Not buying it... My uncle wants $175 for it. If I can't talk him down to $1 per pound, I will stick with my rr track anvil.

 

[deereman75]

Not for sale after a reasonable offer, I think I will build my own from some heavy plate.

 

[ray66v]

Keep watching, they turn up now around here for a good price.

My neighbor has an anvil I can use, but I usually just use a piece of I beam, or railroad track. I only need one when I am shaping sheet metal, and they work fine for that.

 

[deereman75]

I have 1 I made from some train rail, it isn't too bad, and will do for now. I am mainly a bladesmith, so I don't need that big an anvil. I will keep my eye open for a 80-100# anvil.

 

[Raspy]

Have any of you guys used the 110 lb Harbor Freight cast iron anvil? I'm wondering if steel ones work better after reading this thread.

 

[ray66v]

Have any of you guys used the 110 lb Harbor Freight cast iron anvil? I'm wondering if steel ones work better after reading this thread.

In my experience, Chinese cast iron has been very brittle. So, would not be surprised at all, if it cracked in half one day.

 

[Raspy]

I was wondering more about the ring and bounce. Is that an important feature or just an indicator of the alloy?

The HF ones I've seen are not Chinese, they are Russian as far as I know.

 

[weldermike]

From what I have been told, Between $1.00-$2.00 per pound is the going rate for an anvil.

You have been lied too.

 

[Brad_Blazer]

I was wondering more about the ring and bounce. Is that an important feature or just an indicator of the alloy?

The HF ones I've seen are not Chinese, they are Russian as far as I know.

It's been years since HF sold the 110lb Russian anvils. Have you seen them recently?

$10/lb seems really high for a used anvil. Brand new USA Pieh anvils are selling for $7-8/lb at NT. Pieh Blacksmith Tools TFS Single-Horn Blacksmith Anvil — 150 lbs., Model# TFSSB150 | Anvils| Northern Tool + Equipment

 

[weldermike]

 

[Raspy]

It's been years since HF sold the 110lb Russian anvils. Have you seen them recently?

I have one and I like it, but I was just wondering about the alloy of a high quality blacksmith anvil.

 

[homedad]

550 # Blacksmith Anvil
Haven't seen or heard it but looks like a tgtbt deal.

 

[weldermike]

Well first I'd like to say that after over 2 months, I am back on. Now, to my question. I have found a rusted up, very old 40# stake anvil that I am hoping to buy. Now it is rough, but I think I could get it to be a decent bladesmith anvil. It was looking great until I touched the grinder to see what kind of steel it is. It sparked like old cast iron, but nothing else about it seemed cast. First, it actually rebounds quite well, even with just the bottom of the stake resting on the floor. Second, when hit on the side, it will ring. Third, it seems quite hard, and tough to dent. Finally, it has a saddle back, which seems odd, seeing as any cast anvil I have seen would crack before it took that kind of use. So, here sits an anvil that sparks like cast iron, but everything else seems like steel, not even any porosity. What I am wondering is could this be a good anvil, or would it be a door stop. It sure seems old enough to be something like hardened ductile iron, but I just don't know enough about anvils to tell. Knowing this, what do you think I should offer (if anything). If anyone wants, I can post pictures.

Where have you been bud? I havent seen you around for a while. All good?

 

[Gary Fowler]

I blame Craigslist for all the high pricing in used goods. Folks see an ad with super high unreasonable price and think that is the going rate and list theirs at that price or higher 'because mine is better looking than that one' type issue. Next thing you know, folks are listing worn out used objects at more than list for new. Granted, old stuff is sometimes better than new, but anvil prices have really gone thru the roof especially the antique ones.
I once responded to an ad for a chain that was double the price of new advising the owner of his ridiculous price and got a reply not to be so nasty as to tell them they should check new prices prior to listing something. I guess some one might buy them at higher than new. Some folks have super big cojones.

 

[Shield Arc]

I see screaming deals on the local Craigs list all the time!

50LB Dry Rod II

Phoenix (Welding) - 1205522 - 50 Lb Type 5 Dry Rod Oven Without Thermometer

 

[mikehaugen]

I see screaming deals on the local Craigs list all the time!

50LB Dry Rod II

Phoenix (Welding) - 1205522 - 50 Lb Type 5 Dry Rod Oven Without Thermometer

before I clicked on the second link I thought you were being serious. I was just thinking to myself "that doesn't see that great"