Any tips for removing a pin from the backhoe ?

   / Any tips for removing a pin from the backhoe ? #11  
Possibly the straight pin has become eccentric by seizing. The gap in the photos might confirm this. Line boring is a good choice, but having the equipment is something that most people don't have.
 
   / Any tips for removing a pin from the backhoe ? #12  
If the pin were "clipped" but not seized it would likely spin. Since it is "flagged" on one end and open w/ grease nipple on the other, there is no apparent keeper device to keep the pin in place other than the flag on one end. The design surely had some type of keeper....like a roll pin ( although looking at the design, I don't see a way a roll pin could be knocked out) so I am leaning against a roll pin too.

Just now going back and looking at the next to last picture, I see that the flag has a hole, that if rotated 180* appears to have at one time possibly aligned with what appears to be possibly a broken bolt.....or what was once the keeper mechanism for the pin? If this is the case you know the pin is meant to slide out after the keeper is freed so I think it's safe to take whatever measures necessary to remove the pin......hydraulic press, major beating, heat, cut off tool. Whatever it takes to simply get it out, then replace with new pin and bushing.

If the flag was rotated 180*, would the flag's hole match up with that thing to the left side that looks like a sheared pin or bolt?

Edit: I agree with Mock1, I think this pin has become slightly bent or eccentric/deformed and is NOT going to slide through the dipper section without SERIOUS force or having the outer end cut off.
 
   / Any tips for removing a pin from the backhoe ? #13  
If you need to rebore I watched a Utube vid about repairing a large excavator bucket wrist pins that had been rewelded.
This was a simple method using a 1 1/2" solid shaft by 4' long with a fly tool bit and it was supported by self aligning pillow block bearing. To power the shaft it was hooked to a heavy electric drill with reduction.
I could not find it if my life depended on it except by the Utube description.

Craig Clayton

Try "Borewelding and machining" on Youtube search..........

Borewelding & Machining - Tractor Videos - Kubota, John Deere, New Holland and More
 
   / Any tips for removing a pin from the backhoe ?
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#14  
Could you repost a few pics like the red outdoor pics but left and right views but alittle more wide angle. The up close ones have me confused.

If you need to rebore I watched a Utube vid about repairing a large excavator bucket wrist pins that had been rewelded.
This was a simple method using a 1 1/2" solid shaft by 4' long with a fly tool bit and it was supported by self aligning pillow block bearing. To power the shaft it was hooked to a heavy electric drill with reduction.
I could not find it if my life depended on it except by the Utube description.

Craig Clayton

Best I can do for now, going up to the farm to have a look at it and do some painting and warming by the fire and a bit of drinking tea.:)
 

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   / Any tips for removing a pin from the backhoe ? #16  
That's what I thought at first, but the proportions were wrong from the end of the dipper.

Here is a closer pic showing the pin.
 

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   / Any tips for removing a pin from the backhoe ? #17  
That last picture makes it easier to see the tab versus the pin - thanks.

Ken
 
   / Any tips for removing a pin from the backhoe ? #18  
It looks like what's welded on is a little plate with a tapped hole for the keeper bolt which is broken off in the hole.

The grease nipple on the end of the pin should have a channel leading to the center of the boom. Some penetrating oil in a grease gun might be somewhat effective. One of these would be ideal: Great Buster and other products

An air/electric hammer applied to the flag end to get it moving/rotating would be my next action. You can optionally try a sledge hammer on the flag end followed by a big wrench to get it turning.
 
   / Any tips for removing a pin from the backhoe ?
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#19  
Looks like the flag was bolted to the arm but has snapped off, dont know why it isn't fully home.

We have smacked it with a sledge hammer after bracing the arm with a baulk of timber and it hasn't budged, must be siezed in the centre, there is gease inside the tube as I probed with a piece of wire after removing the grease nipple.

Looks like a big job then:(
 
   / Any tips for removing a pin from the backhoe ? #20  
Like others have said, try something like an impact hammer. Amazing what lots of rapid pounding can do.

Just thinking out loud but another possibility would be to have a piece of I-beam with a hole drilled through it for the bolt to pass into, with the I-beam turned crosswise to the arm. Use threaded rod to attach it to another I-beam ~ 1' on the other side of the arm. Then use a hydraulic jack or ram to push the bolt out.

Ken
 
 

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