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   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #801  
Put the pressure tester on it.



The kit was easy to use. They didn’t have the right size adapter in there, so I used the universal.



Pumped it up to system pressure of 13 psi...and waited...and waited...and waited. No leaking so far. This was with the system cold.
Guess I’m all out of troubleshooting options at this point?

Local Toro place wants $220 for a head gasket.
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #802  
After thinking about it a bit, I’m going to hold off on the head gasket. I will put a bottle of the head gasket repair, mechanic in a can stuff in. My thinking is, this may buy me some time till I can do it the right way. There is no coolant in the oil, no bubbles in the radiator, no coolant loss, no overheating, no smoke, no strange engine noises or operation... only issue is this grey slick in the radiator.

I will keep a close eye on: The oil for water intrusion, coolant loss, and overheating. If things start to go South, I will change the gasket.

Did a few finishing things to the 325 tonight.





I pulled two weights off the two wheel drive 322 and installed them on the 325. For some reason they had four weights on that 322.

I changed out the coolant again, finished up adding some spiral wrap to the wiring, and topped off the fluids. Will call this project done for the moment, until the mower deck goes on.

The guardian deck comes in the shop next. Will be anxiously waiting to hear from the forum member who is replacing his spindle bearings, as this deck needs them changed.
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #803  
Hello everyone,

Iam from the Netherlands and i have a Toro Groundsmaster 322D (serial 60540)
I bought the machine a year ago as non running parts mower.
I did some work on the electrical system and put a new contact switch: and it runs..
The mitsubishi diesel engine runs good en the mower mows perfect.
THe hydrostatic drive was leaking a bit and i put new seals init (3x)

Now i have another problem, the hydrostatic drive is not leaking anymore but now the differential is leaking..
How can i fix that ? it look like a lot of work to remove the whole differential from the mower and get a new gasket in it.
Has anyone tips for me how to repair this leak?
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #805  
Don稚 know if you have the service manual yet, but here is a link to it.

Toro Groundsmaster 3�� Series Service Manual (Page 95 of 4�2)

I don稚 think the transaxle is too bad to get out, but I have never done it either, sorry.

Thanks for that manual, i see i need to remove borh front wheels and pull out the axles, then removing the hydrostatic transmission and then i can open up the differential. I think i do not remove the whole front axle from the machine, jus puling the axles a bit, then moving the hydrostatic trans and get the bolts out the trans, then open up the trans a bit with a screwdriver and get some gasket sealer and bolt everything together.
I think thats the most easy way to do it, so next week i will give it a try
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #806  
Thanks for that manual, i see i need to remove borh front wheels and pull out the axles, then removing the hydrostatic transmission and then i can open up the differential. I think i do not remove the whole front axle from the machine, jus puling the axles a bit, then moving the hydrostatic trans and get the bolts out the trans, then open up the trans a bit with a screwdriver and get some gasket sealer and bolt everything together.
I think thats the most easy way to do it, so next week i will give it a try

Today a take a closer look, remove the front wheels and see where it leaks.
The oil is coming from the top of the differential, i see there is a air outlet on the top and the oil comes from that outlet.
Is this outlet stuck ? ( i know there is a steel ball insite that closet the gap when there comes some liquid ) or do i use wrong oil ? (i have 15W40 in it)
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #807  
i also take a look to the brakes, they dont work, the brake cables are totally frozen.
Can i order this cables somewhere ? (cant find any part number in the manuals)
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #808  
https://www.toro.com/getpub/3574

Here is a 322d parts manual. The website appears to be down at the moment, but try again later.

Frozen brake cables are very common on these. Hold on to your hat, these cables are expensive.

Here is a copy of a 322d owners manual.

https://www.toro.com/getpub/7991

Where in Nederland are you?
 
   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #809  
This seems to be the place for Groundsmasters on the forum, so I will join in.
I picked up a very old Groundsmaster 72 a few weeks ago. I wanted one to mow around my orchard and several acres of lawn.
Model 30782 Serial 10127. I am thinking early 80's but am not exactly sure of the year.
It's in really decent shape for the age. About 3k hours on it. Deck is in excellent shape and overall seems like it has been fairly well maintained.

I have several things I am going to do immediately. Replace all the fluids, get everything adjusted properly. Replace the extremely old hard tires. I have lots of hills, so I am going with a slightly more aggressive Carlisle tire to minimize slipping.
The electric fuel pump is not working. So, I am going to ditch the ancient Stanadyne water separator and inline fuel filters and go with a spin on water/filter combo and replace the fuel pump to simplify the fuel system.

So far it seems to be an extremely straightforward and easily worked on machine.
My immediate repair on it is the fuel solenoid. The solenoid apparently went out, so instead of replacing it, someone cut the wires on it and it was being used as a kill switch via the manual plunger. That does not work for me.


Which leads me a to question.

I bought a new solenoid. And in trying to get it working led me to the electrical system. It has been hacked on a bit over the last 40 years. No surprise there. It's not bad, but I think someone with minimal electrical knowledge tried to troubleshoot the solenoid issue which led to some wire cutting.

Anyway, going through the manual it shows that the Control Module needs replaced as I do not have voltage from "both" of the blue wires leading from it. Flowchart leads to replace module if that condition exists.
My real question here is this. Looking at the wiring diagrams, it seems the Control Module controls the fuel solenoid and somehow connects back to the ammeter and glow plugs. That is the function I do not understand.
Does the control module apply momentary voltage to the solenoid at shut down? Solenoid is a normally open condition, so would engage to kill engine as opposed to a normally closed solenoid which required voltage to remain open during operation.
And, what is it doing with the ammeter and glow plugs?

My immediate solution it seems is to ditch the control module and use a momentary push button on the panel to close the solenoid to shut the machine off. Module is a discontinued part and I honestly can't see searching around and trying to source a used one if it only exists to operate a solenoid. So, unless I am missing something else that the module does, it seems an overly complicated solution to a simple function.

My plan with the machine is to rebuild it over the winter. I really like to take things that are old and make them work like they did when new. I am a sucker for punishment for the most part.
I will take some better pictures later. It's jammed in the shop currently beside my tractor, so isn't super accessible for photo ops.

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   / any toro groundsmaster fans on here? #810  
https://www.toro.com/getpub/3574

Here is a 322d parts manual. The website appears to be down at the moment, but try again later.

Frozen brake cables are very common on these. Hold on to your hat, these cables are expensive.

Here is a copy of a 322d owners manual.

https://www.toro.com/getpub/7991

Where in Nederland are you?

I did a little search and see that the cables are expensive.
I try to get them work, i take a spanner and pull very heavy on the cables: no result, totally frozen.

I think i make some cables myself from some old motorcycle brake cables.

I live close to the city of Zwolle
 

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