Any trailer towing expert out there?

   / Any trailer towing expert out there? #41  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( just need to find a dealer willing to do the delivery )</font>

I'd be surprised if you find a dealer who is not willing to do the delivery. They might add a little bit to the price if they have to deliver it, but every RV dealer I've known would deliver them. It might surprise you to learn how many people live in travel trailers, never move them, and don't have a vehicle they could pull it with if they wanted to. Just be honest with them about the road, so they'll likely go look at it first if there's any doubt. A dealer may have his own employees (or himself) deliver one, or most of them also have individuals whom they hire to make deliveries.

I have a brother-in-law who recently bought a park model trailer from an individual; elderly lady. Her son said he'd deliver it; about a hundred miles. He thought he could maneuver it into a very tight lot my brother-in-law had bought at a lake. He got his truck stuck and they had to go find a fellow with a tractor to first get the guys truck out of there, and then to put the trailer in place. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I know you've talked about both conventional and fifth-wheel trailers, and while I prefer fifth-wheel to travel, if I were going to have a trailer to leave in one place, I'd prefer the conventional. One reason is that usually are not as tall. Another big reason for old folks like me is that you don't have as many steps to go up and down. And another is the fact that if you're concerned about getting it to where you want it, I'll bet you could find someone locally with a tractor that would put it in place easily.

Eleven years ago, I hired a regular mobile home mover to move my parents' 14 x 52 mobile home from the Texas coast to central Texas. It started to rain just as he arrived, and sure enough, he got stuck. A neighbor pulled the truck out with an old Farmall M. But of course he couldn't handle the trailer. However, I called another guy with a big Deere and paid him $125 the next day to move the trailer into place.
 
   / Any trailer towing expert out there? #42  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( just need to find a dealer willing to do the delivery )</font>

I'd be surprised if you find a dealer who is not willing to do the delivery. They might add a little bit to the price if they have to deliver it, but every RV dealer I've known would deliver them. It might surprise you to learn how many people live in travel trailers, never move them, and don't have a vehicle they could pull it with if they wanted to. Just be honest with them about the road, so they'll likely go look at it first if there's any doubt. A dealer may have his own employees (or himself) deliver one, or most of them also have individuals whom they hire to make deliveries.

I have a brother-in-law who recently bought a park model trailer from an individual; elderly lady. Her son said he'd deliver it; about a hundred miles. He thought he could maneuver it into a very tight lot my brother-in-law had bought at a lake. He got his truck stuck and they had to go find a fellow with a tractor to first get the guys truck out of there, and then to put the trailer in place. /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

I know you've talked about both conventional and fifth-wheel trailers, and while I prefer fifth-wheel to travel, if I were going to have a trailer to leave in one place, I'd prefer the conventional. One reason is that usually are not as tall. Another big reason for old folks like me is that you don't have as many steps to go up and down. And another is the fact that if you're concerned about getting it to where you want it, I'll bet you could find someone locally with a tractor that would put it in place easily.

Eleven years ago, I hired a regular mobile home mover to move my parents' 14 x 52 mobile home from the Texas coast to central Texas. It started to rain just as he arrived, and sure enough, he got stuck. A neighbor pulled the truck out with an old Farmall M. But of course he couldn't handle the trailer. However, I called another guy with a big Deere and paid him $125 the next day to move the trailer into place.
 
   / Any trailer towing expert out there? #43  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( When you turn a corner with a bumper pull trailer the pivot point is at the back of the truck, on a fiver it's over the axle )</font>

I don't want to start an argument over this one, but you said it exactly correct except for...

When we both start turning on identical corners with identical trucks & identical trailers.. My trailer with the 5th wheel will already be 3' farther into the corner effectively shortening my overall trailer length )</font>

You've got a point there, I wonder if it's enough to offset the difference in the pivot point? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
   / Any trailer towing expert out there? #44  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( </font><font color="blueclass=small">( When you turn a corner with a bumper pull trailer the pivot point is at the back of the truck, on a fiver it's over the axle )</font>

I don't want to start an argument over this one, but you said it exactly correct except for...

When we both start turning on identical corners with identical trucks & identical trailers.. My trailer with the 5th wheel will already be 3' farther into the corner effectively shortening my overall trailer length )</font>

You've got a point there, I wonder if it's enough to offset the difference in the pivot point? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
   / Any trailer towing expert out there? #45  
stumpfield, I don't want to get in the I can put my trailer anywhere you can end I agree I don't think you could find a Trailer dealer that wouldn't deliver it for you for next to nothing as a matter of fact we bought a 35' Nomad bumper pull years ago contingent on the trailer fitting in our backyard without any modifications, that sales guy jumped in his truck and hooked up pulled it 20 miles to our house and put it in the backyard without ever getting out of his truck. You had to drive perfectly straight for 30' between the neighbors brick fence and our brick house and airconditioner unit you had 9' to play with and a 15 degree slope that had the trailer under the eaves of the house for the first 10' or so it was tight.
We bought the trailer and to make my job easier I added a front hitch to the front of my truck it was the best hundred bucks I ever spent that was 25 years ago and I haven't owned another truck without a front hitch in that amount of time and I'm on my 5th truck and third trailer. With a front ball properly mounted (needs to be very heavy duty or you'll bend stuff, been there to) you can drive a trailer anywhere you want and put it places a lot of people would be hard pressed to back their car into.
Steve
 
   / Any trailer towing expert out there? #46  
stumpfield, I don't want to get in the I can put my trailer anywhere you can end I agree I don't think you could find a Trailer dealer that wouldn't deliver it for you for next to nothing as a matter of fact we bought a 35' Nomad bumper pull years ago contingent on the trailer fitting in our backyard without any modifications, that sales guy jumped in his truck and hooked up pulled it 20 miles to our house and put it in the backyard without ever getting out of his truck. You had to drive perfectly straight for 30' between the neighbors brick fence and our brick house and airconditioner unit you had 9' to play with and a 15 degree slope that had the trailer under the eaves of the house for the first 10' or so it was tight.
We bought the trailer and to make my job easier I added a front hitch to the front of my truck it was the best hundred bucks I ever spent that was 25 years ago and I haven't owned another truck without a front hitch in that amount of time and I'm on my 5th truck and third trailer. With a front ball properly mounted (needs to be very heavy duty or you'll bend stuff, been there to) you can drive a trailer anywhere you want and put it places a lot of people would be hard pressed to back their car into.
Steve
 
   / Any trailer towing expert out there? #47  
That's a good idea Steve.
I'd put a stiffner under the hood if you put a fifth wheel hitch on the front though. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Any trailer towing expert out there? #48  
That's a good idea Steve.
I'd put a stiffner under the hood if you put a fifth wheel hitch on the front though. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
   / Any trailer towing expert out there? #49  
Guess I will put my $.02 in. How far the center of the axles are from the hitch point on the tow vechicle will effect how well the trailer will follow the tow vechicle. Measure all the trailers that you look at from the center of the hitch to the center of the axles and the one that is the shortest will be easier to get in tight places. I know I have looked at horse trailers that were the same length but the axles were farther back on some making them hard to get into tight places. Also the length of the tow vechicle will have an effect on getting it in. It may also be able to hook it behind a farm tractor and get a longer trailer in than you could with a truck. Tractor Supply sells a 3 point attachment that has a receiver and a gooseneck ball on top to move trailers around with. You may be able to get something like this to hook to a fithwheel.
 
   / Any trailer towing expert out there? #50  
Guess I will put my $.02 in. How far the center of the axles are from the hitch point on the tow vechicle will effect how well the trailer will follow the tow vechicle. Measure all the trailers that you look at from the center of the hitch to the center of the axles and the one that is the shortest will be easier to get in tight places. I know I have looked at horse trailers that were the same length but the axles were farther back on some making them hard to get into tight places. Also the length of the tow vechicle will have an effect on getting it in. It may also be able to hook it behind a farm tractor and get a longer trailer in than you could with a truck. Tractor Supply sells a 3 point attachment that has a receiver and a gooseneck ball on top to move trailers around with. You may be able to get something like this to hook to a fithwheel.
 

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