One Yahoo's old Homebult Implement Club There used to be a fella that went by Roger Scotty. He had a small Yanmar with a loader and he mounted a 12 inche bucket to the bottom of his loader bucket for small trench jobs. I got to operate one such item built in the 50's for an liis Chalmers trackloader. It was on a long boom the replaced the bucket. THe curl was used to crowd and dump the bucket and the hoist to rais the load but you had to steer the loader to dump and either clutch it or put it in gear ll this was alot less easier that it is now manuvering a loader. To help crowd the bucket you could drive backwards and it loaded faster.