Anybody have problems with Kubota Corp?

willymotts · Aug 2, 2014

Wow. This is a tough audience. To those who tried to be helpful, thank you. To those who took the opportunity to bash me, I hope it made your day. Feel free to continue to tell me how foolish I was because I bought what the dealer recommended. I won't be bothering the esteemed members of this site with my "whining" any more because I won't be posting any more issues.
Again, to those who tried to advise and not slam, thank you.

Code54 · Aug 2, 2014

Don't let them get to you. There is a lot of great advice here and sometime people come off wrong when typing. 3pt hoes have a reputation of being hard on machines but 99%of the world would never know this so I wouldn't worry about it. Normally the dealer recommending something would lead a LOT of people to feel safe purchasing the item and think it is fine. Unfortunately sometimes the dealers don't know best and that makes it really hard for new owners to get the correct machine and accessories.

If you can get some help from Kubota and the dealer that would be great. May want to see if there is a subframe produced to fit your machine as that should eliminate any future problems.

lilranch2001 · Aug 2, 2014

willymotts said:
Wow. This is a tough audience. To those who tried to be helpful, thank you. To those who took the opportunity to bash me, I hope it made your day. Feel free to continue to tell me how foolish I was because I bought what the dealer recommended. I won't be bothering the esteemed members of this site with my "whining" any more because I won't be posting any more issues.
Again, to those who tried to advise and not slam, thank you.

When you post on a site, you are going to get each individuals ideas and positions.
If you are so thin skinned as not to be able to take it, I suggest you stay away from public forums
:thumbdown:

newbury · Aug 2, 2014

willymotts said:
If I had known that a 3-pt hitch mount would be a problem, I would have made a different decision at the time. The salesman I bought it from was one of the owners. I thought that if he recommended something, it was the correct thing. (Another reason I am shopping dealers.) Thanks for your response.

You don't mention if it was the regular 3pt hitch or the beefed up one.

I view many tractor dealers as I view car dealers, trust but verify.

lilranch2001 said:
Personally, I would think if Bota and dealer does that it is going way above and beyond.....
Anyone using a 3 point hitch is asking for a catastrophic failure and you my friend got your wish!

I've been told by Woods AND Kubota that I can mount my BX70 on my M4700 with an "enhanced" top link bracket. If the mfg advises it should be ok.

Bill Hoffman said:
I had a b7800 with a Woods 750 backhoe. Never had a problem because I installed a high strength top link bracket, way more beefy than the standard. My salesman steered me to it and it was the answer to the possibility of tearing
apart the transmission case.

Exactly

willymotts said:
Wow. This is a tough audience. To those who tried to be helpful, thank you. To those who took the opportunity to bash me, I hope it made your day. Feel free to continue to tell me how foolish I was because I bought what the dealer recommended. I won't be bothering the esteemed members of this site with my "whining" any more because I won't be posting any more issues.
Again, to those who tried to advise and not slam, thank you.

Well as they say, don't let the door hit you on the way out. 10 years is a LONG time. 30% off the bill sounds pretty good. It's too bad you could only use it for 600 hours in 10 years.

There is a LONG history here of B7800's with 3pt backhoes. Only a few have been reported breaking the tractor. Many have reported bending cylinders.

Fluid · Aug 2, 2014

lilranch2001 said:
Deere has its own set of broken housing issues

with 600 hours?

lilranch2001 said:
And they refuse to do anything about them

with 600 hours?

willymotts said:
Wow. This is a tough audience. To those who tried to be helpful, thank you. To those who took the opportunity to bash me, I hope it made your day. Feel free to continue to tell me how foolish I was because I bought what the dealer recommended. I won't be bothering the esteemed members of this site with my "whining" any more because I won't be posting any more issues.
Again, to those who tried to advise and not slam, thank you.

How many tractors with a backhoe have you had in the past?

Code54 said:
Don't let them get to you. There is a lot of great advice here and sometime people come off wrong when typing. 3pt hoes have a reputation of being hard on machines but 99%of the world would never know this so I wouldn't worry about it. Normally the dealer recommending something would lead a LOT of people to feel safe purchasing the item and think it is fine. Unfortunately sometimes the dealers don't know best and that makes it really hard for new owners to get the correct machine and accessories.

If you can get some help from Kubota and the dealer that would be great. May want to see if there is a subframe produced to fit your machine as that should eliminate any future problems.

;;;;;;;; If it was me and I fixed it, I would get rid of it in a heartbeat and I would not be getting anything with the Kubota name on it. A dealer and salesperson is supposed to guild and help a first time buyer so you get a good correctly specced out machine so its not junk in 1000 hours, not just fill in the blanks on a form and take your money and smile.

lilranch2001 · Aug 2, 2014

Fluid said:
with 600 hours?

with 600 hours?

How many tractors with a backhoe have you had in the past?
;;;;;;;; If it was me and I fixed it, I would get rid of it in a heartbeat and I would not be getting anything with the Kubota name on it. A dealer and salesperson is supposed to guild and help a first time buyer so you get a good correctly specced out machine so its not junk in 1000 hours, not just fill in the blanks on a form and take your money and smile.

If my memory serves me, yes with 600 hours on them
There used to be several deere threads devoted to the issue

2458n · Aug 2, 2014

I bought a Ford 730 backhoe for 1100.00 dollars that the man used to remove 3 tree stumps with. The top link was 2x2 solid steel. Before the auction was over three concerned people had told me I was going to tear the backend off my tractor. everything is fine. Different tractors have different abilites. A subframe should be used. All the tear out forces travel right down that top link.

dave1949 · Aug 2, 2014

Code54 said:
Don't let them get to you. There is a lot of great advice here and sometime people come off wrong when typing. 3pt hoes have a reputation of being hard on machines but 99%of the world would never know this so I wouldn't worry about it. Normally the dealer recommending something would lead a LOT of people to feel safe purchasing the item and think it is fine. Unfortunately sometimes the dealers don't know best and that makes it really hard for new owners to get the correct machine and accessories.

If you can get some help from Kubota and the dealer that would be great. May want to see if there is a subframe produced to fit your machine as that should eliminate any future problems.

Yeah, don't get mad.

I agree that 3pt backhoes are more likely to be a problem, on any brand. Some of that breaking in-two/cracking issue happens on the small New Hollands also.

Backhoes exert forces in all directions. The subframe on my 2003 New Holland metal fatigued to the point where the end that the backhoe bolts on separated from the rest of the subframe on one side, and the other side wasn't far behind it. For $175 IIRC I had it re-built at a welding/fabrication shop.

I never even considered going to NH and asking them to replace it. I use the heck out of it and got my money's worth IMO. Stuff wears out and breaks. I understand you would like it not to be the core of your tractor, but the $360 part cost you mentioned spread over 10 years is not unreasonable. The 35 hours labor sounds like a lot of time, but I am not a mechanic of any color. I think there is room to negotiate the labor cost. Worst case, people here have fixed much larger tractors on their own that required splitting.