Anybody here have any experience w/ Ford SD 6.0 PSD?

[Diamondpilot]

Yep, that is the word on the street. Hopefully they will keep the market share after all the diesel switches on the 250 up. I have had a 7.3L and liked it alot and two 6.0L's that I love. The 6.0L got a bad rap early on that was somewhat deserved but by the last 3 years of the engine things were good but the damage was done. I wish they would have just stayed with it and skipped the 6.4L they have now.

Chris

 

[swines]

Not very when I smell a lie or false advertisements. By any sort of measurement, the 1996 Chevrolet was NOT a 40 year old truck. Precisely how much are you going to opt to ignore false advertising???

I guess I'm just smart enough to know that it's not false advertising as they're referring to the current generation of trucks...as no diesel is available in a 1/2 ton truck today - and "they want to be the first" to have one in the current competative models. Also, technically, none of what was published is classified as advertising.

Within the context of "current" (not forever in the history of history) - if Ford can provide the product they're trying to produce, it should be a nice vehicle. I'm sure both GM and Dodge have similar projects and are not unaware what Ford has been doing.

If you remember (or not) - Ford had tried the small diesel for the F150 previously with Navistar. They had a V6 prototype and cancelled the project after some testing because it became obvious the motor would not meet 2008 pollution requirements - meaning it would NEVER meet the ones programmed for 2013.

Yes, my mistake on the age of your truck....it should have been 14 years - typo on my part 14, 14, 14, 14, 14...think I've got it now....

The constant "smelling a lie" mentality gets really old as there is no point to it. It provides little if any real information relative to the subject. And your post was not really correct quoting 14 (see I got it right) as the number of years that GM had a diesel available - as it was 26 years if you will acknowledge the really bad 6.2 liter available in 1/2 ton trucks in 1982 through 1987 when they changed to the 6.5 liter.

Interestingly, GM is again offering a 6.2 liter diesel in the 2008 Tahoe, Yukon, and Escalade. I see no reason why GM could not put that into a 1500 series Chevy or GMC pickup ---- meaning (if you can bear with me...) GM could be first with a 1/2 ton diesel pickup!

 

[swines]

Yep, that is the word on the street. Hopefully they will keep the market share after all the diesel switches on the 250 up. I have had a 7.3L and liked it alot and two 6.0L's that I love. The 6.0L got a bad rap early on that was somewhat deserved but by the last 3 years of the engine things were good but the damage was done. I wish they would have just stayed with it and skipped the 6.4L they have now.
Chris

They couldn't do that. The 6.0 liter was a "bridge motor" to meet interim pollution control requirements. It could not be made to meet the 2008 EPA requirements. Just as the 7.3 could not be made to meet the 2003, and then 2005 pollution control requirements.

The 6.4 liter was the motor designed to meet the 2008 requirements - but, as you probably know - requires a "regen" routine to keep it within EPA limits. That's why Ford is looking at continuously injecting a chemical into the catalytic converter as a way to bypass the regen, and make it meet the NEXT level of EPA pollution limits.

 

[Builder]

Interestingly, GM is again offering a 6.2 liter diesel in the 2008 Tahoe, Yukon, and Escalade. I see no reason why GM could not put that into a 1500 series Chevy or GMC pickup ---- meaning (if you can bear with me...) GM could be first with a 1/2 ton diesel pickup!

It's a 6.2L gas engine designed to replace the current 6L gas engine. Sorry.

GM will offer a 4.5L baby Duramax diesel (hopefully) in a few short months in the 2009 model.

 

[Builder]

I'm gonna send both of you'll to the wood shed. you'll must be kin?????

They're goin at it like a couple wet hens!

 

[Dargo]

It's a 6.2L gas engine designed to replace the current 6L gas engine. Sorry.

GM will offer a 4.5L baby Duramax diesel (hopefully) in a few short months in the 2009 model.

Oh, oh, oh, and you're not correcting him on his "mis-statements as well??? C'mon now, if you're going to play the game, you're also involved at pointing out incorrect information by the same person. Personally, I'm finished with that poster. Some things are simply not worth commenting on. You, of all people, should know how some of the relatively new posters here want to show us all how everything is done. Don't tell me you haven't seen your fair share!

Hey, BTW, the 6 leaker PowerJoke has surprisingly been shockingly nice since I got it back. I've only put abut 750 miles on it since, but there are definitely no leaks and it handled towing 18k for about 100 miles without any issues at all. For completely bone stock I gotta admit that I was pleasantly surprised at it having reasonable power. After having that 5.9 on steroids for so many years I was rather apprehensive as to how it would tow that size load for me. I've towed 10k to 12k with it several times and, as I expected, it handled that fine. I'd underestimated how much nicer the braking systems have advanced in the last decade. Heck, even the fuel economy has been pretty decent with all the towing as well. And, yes, I'm keeping my fingers crossed that it stays that way.

 

[Diamondpilot]

Dargo

I am sure given the time you will learn to love this truck. I have heard all the negative stuff on the 6.0L but own two and love them. Never had a Cummins but had a Dmax and a 7.4L Ford and I feel its head and shoulders above the competition as a total package.. You will hear people bad mouth the 6.0L all the time but my guess is they have never owned one. I feel the chassis, brakes, suspension, integrated brake controller, and interior are second to none. Yes it may be a little lower on HP and Torque but it has plenty and does a great job with what it has. What the 6.0L has going for it is economy and a wide torque band which makes it a great tow rig.

Hope you enjoy yours as much as we love or two.

Chris

 

[Builder]

Dargo

I am sure given the time you will learn to love this truck. I have heard all the negative stuff on the 6.0L but own two and love them. Never had a Cummins but had a Dmax and a 7.4L Ford and I feel its head and shoulders above the competition as a total package.. You will hear people bad mouth the 6.0L all the time but my guess is they have never owned one. I feel the chassis, brakes, suspension, integrated brake controller, and interior are second to none. Yes it may be a little lower on HP and Torque but it has plenty and does a great job with what it has. What the 6.0L has going for it is economy and a wide torque band which makes it a great tow rig.

Hope you enjoy yours as much as we love or two.

Chris

On edit: OK total package. I thought you were gonna try to say a 6 leaker is better than a DMAX.

 

[LarryRB]

Dargo
Yes it may be a little lower on HP and Torque but it has plenty and does a great job with what it has. What the 6.0L has going for it is economy and a wide torque band which makes it a great tow rig.
Chris

Around here, with a 6.0 Ford one can only get a 373 or some such ratio rear axle. My question would be to our short, but very steep hills. One, is a mile down and another mile up the other side and much steeper than any first hill on a roller coaster, Something like 28 degrees. I have a 410 posi, purposely because of this,.. Our hills aren't very long but similar to W. Va. I laugh when truck drivers come out here from the left coast (yes I was an owner operator 18 yrs) they talk about the 54 miles steady climb on I 80 and hate it here because it is constant shifting in these short but steep hills, To me a 373 would struggle, I tried an 07 Dodge, 6.7 with 373 towing my L48 Kubota TLB through Bigelow holloe and promptly returned it and ordered one with 410's.

 

[browns40]

Thats really odd, because I have the 4.10 on my '07 6.0 350 DRW, decided the 4.30 was more than I needed, and figured, just as you said, the 3.73 would be too much of a trade-off on towing capacity.

I opted for the 6.0 because of the frame, steering, suspension, brakes--the truck surrounding it. The Dodge, and Chevy/GMC front end offerings were just not what I wanted to put a 9.2 Boss plow on the front of. The robustness of the frames and suspension, overall weight, and loading capacities were not what Ford's was. I'd have rather had the 5.9 or 6.6 sitting in the truck, but that's not how they make them...

Ideally you'd have a 5.9 Cummins under the hood, an Allison hooked up to it, sitting in the Ford chassis... oh well.

To date is has been rock solid, but you hear so much hype about the early 6.0 shortfalls, you end up having that in the back of your head.

Were you talking about used market availability then?