Anybody locking in Propane price for winter?

Junkman · Aug 22, 2004

Looks like a torpedo left over from the war that someone painted blue. I would fill it now because once it starts to get cold, they put butane in with the propane to help it flow in the cold weather. I have never had a problem with the straight propane here, and I don't like the butane addition because it makes your propane appliances soot up. This was what I had experienced in the old cottage that had a propane heater. Once they put the butane into the mix, I would have problems and have to keep cleaning the pilot and thermocouple. Once they switched back to pure propane, no more problems. Also the kitchen stove would leave black soot on the bottom of the posts.
Where are the barn pictures.... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Bird · Aug 22, 2004

( once it starts to get cold, they put butane in with the propane to help it flow in the cold weather )

Junkman, are you sure you've got that right? I honestly don't have any technical knowledge myself, but I remember when I was a kid, the first place we lived with "butane" had an underground tank and then when we moved, we had an above ground tank and had "propane". I understood the reason was the fact that butane freezes at about 0 to -2 C while propane doesn't freeze until about -42 to -45 C, so propane was the preferred LPG for cold weather. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Am I wrong about that?

wroughtn_harv · Aug 22, 2004

Bird I don't know if Junkman's got his stuff together on gas but he's dead on one thing. Bebster owes us some pictures. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Please!

LarryRB · Aug 22, 2004

stuff together with gas? He's loaded with gas.. Whoops, we're talking propane here,. guess I got carried away.. /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

gordon · Aug 22, 2004

Your right on the money Bird about the butane. Sometimes butane is added to propane down south when it's cheaper.

They do add a chemical to propane to help displace moisture at times, but the name escapes me right now. All I can think of is acetone or MEK, but I don't believe that is the correct one.

Gordon

Junkman · Aug 22, 2004

Bird....... I believe that it is butane, but I could be wrong. It has been a while since I asked what it was that caused the soot on the bottom of the pans and in the furnace. We now only use propane for cooking and laundry dryer. A 100 gallon tank lasts for a very long time and we fill it only once a year. The store is heated with propane and we go through a lot of it there. 75 degrees 24/7 from September till April. I will call in the morning and check on the product that is added. For all the others comments... yes, I do have gas... 4 ears of local grown corn will do it every time. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I will also check on the Selkirk pricing.

Junkman · Aug 23, 2004

I was told today that butane is used in propane in the South in the winter and they add Methanol to the propane here in the North. The addition of these products is to keep the moisture that is in propane from freezing. The Selkirk price is presently at $.97 per gallon and he expects that it will go down this winter, or as soon as the oil prices stabilize.

buckle97 · Aug 23, 2004

I always wondered what the difference between butane and propane was. The company I buy my propane from is called The Butane Propane Company. I just assumed I was getting strictly propane /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif.

Lawrence

Bird · Aug 23, 2004

( they add Methanol to the propane here in the North )

According to my Operator's Manual for Safe Dispensing of Propane, published by Ferrellgas several years ago, any new DOT cylinder should be purged and then "Add the required amount of methanol into the tank (1 pint per 100 gallons of tank capacity)" before filling the first time.

gordon · Aug 23, 2004

Yea thats the one ---methanol---. For the life of me I couldn't think of it last night. /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Gordon