Price Check Anybody pricing a 2210 yet?

[bigpete]

After I took a few minutes to educate my local dealer about the subtleties of the 2210 model, I got my "first blush" pricing yesterday on the tractor and a few possible options:

2210 Base w/DSCV for loader: $10,449
210 loader w/49" bucket: $2,258
Front blade w/ quick-hitch: $1,090
62C MMM: $1,800
54C MMM: $1,420

I am confident these prices are a bit high and the salesman will wiggle downward because he wants a return customer.

Anybody else gettinge early quotes or placed an order yet?

Any dealers out there (Deerenebraska?) who might offer some pricing insight?

Thanks in advance for your comments.

p.s. Anybody know why it is that the dealer closest to your residence will invariably know the least about the product you want to buy? /w3tcompact/icons/hmm.gif

 

[Gunfighter]

I have noticed that the price for a tractor get better the further you are away from home,
especially if you pass a few dealers to get there....

Did this dealer have a JD 2210 in stock as the dealers around me
say they won't have one to show till late November or December.

This picture of the JD 2210 was taken at a farm show (not by me)
and post to another tractorbynet thread early this year...

 

[Rus91]

That sounds like more than what I paid for my 4010

 

[bigpete]

Round two: This dealer is 60 miles from home and much more in tune with the product. The prices are "first blush" over the phone, so I expect to do much better when the push is on:

2210 w/turf tires, DSCV and 62C deck - $12,470

210 loader w/ 49" bucket and level indicator - $2180

He will itemize for me when I visit next week. The tractor and deck are pretty darn close in price to the first dealer, but the loader is $78 less expensive. The specs compared to the 4010 differ primarily in that the 2210 is a little more feature rich with greater horsepower, PTO and engine. While the 4010 has a larger footprint, tires, and greater hydraulic capacity. I didn't price the 4010 again so I don't know whether I could do better on that model.

He mentioned that he expects to have new incentives in hand by the time they take delivery of the first units in late November. We had a great talk and I am infinately more confident in this salesperson.

And get this....he mentioned that additional testing is underway for a subframe backhoe that will be compatible with the 2210, 4010, 4110 and 4115 (one backhoe model for four tractor models). He said this was not just a rumor and that an independent testing firm is working on the first 2210 product releases for late October and an April release of the backhoe. He said the competitive advantage of this hoe over the one offered by the BX22 is that it is a subframe unit versus a 3PH unit on the BX22 (stronger and more stable, greater specs according to him. I am not an expert here so BX22 owners can take it up with him, not me). He also mentioned that quick attach/detatch is a key goal in design of the hoe frame along with surpassing the specs on the BX22.

We'll see next spring, I guess.

 

[SethO]

The BX22 backhoe is a subframe unit NOT 3PH. If you have only read about the BX22, please see one before your purchase. For now at least, the 2210 is a vaportractor.

 

[bigpete]

Here's a link that you might find useful:

<A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.tractorbynet.com/forumfiles/9-204999-JD22102.jpg>Vapor tractor</A>

 

[GaryK]

Looks to me like a revised version of a 450, for the money you might be better off with a 4000 series.

 

[Nuru]

GaryK, I would agree, however it depends on how big of a mini-tractor he wants. If he want the sub-CUT, then this may not be bad at all, I think if were ~<2000 bucks less than what he is being quoted, it would be a better deal, but it is brand spanking new, so, ..etc.. The pricing he is being quoted would definitely make me look around for a 4100 (sitting on a dealers lot), or a 4110.

 

[bigpete]

As I mentioned, the pricing is first blush. I am only sharing the first prices seen or heard on this model and I'm sure you guys realize that a quote over the phone on a product that cannot yet be shipped is likely to be near MSRP. A 2210 w/ 62" deck and loader is definately going to end up at least a couple thousand $$$ less than a similarly equiped 4110. If you go by Deere website pricing the 2210 will be over $3,000 less than a 4110 MSRP.

The allure is not just pricing but similar power at the PTO and ground with a smaller footprint and turning radius, albeit less weight and hydraulic capacity. The 4110 is an option and I'm sure I will end up sharing more comparisons and will compare the units closely.

 

[SethO]

You also see a lot of pictures of CONCEPT cars too. Let's wait to see the tractor on a dealer's lot.

 

[bigpete]

When I see one on a dealer's lot can I order one then?

 

[SethO]

ABSOLUTELY. My point is that until it is on a dealer's lot, or a manufacturer's site, it does not exist as a product.

 

[bigpete]

Wow. That's the silliest thing I have ever read. But I checked a listing of your other posts and, so far, maligning the 2210 offering seems to be your only purpose for posting at TBN, as far as I can tell.

When I saw the pictures of the price tag and the serial number plate, I decided it was real. When I downloaded the detail sell-in documents provided to Deere dealers in September, I knew it was real. As I get pricing from dealers, I expect that a 2210 can be delivered if I choose to buy one. You can decide what's real on your own time Seth, but I am seeking real dialogue about pricing here, and with all due respect, I'm not interested in debating your notions from obviously questionable motives. Unless of course you are trying to protect me from the evil grifters at John Deere stealing my $13,000 and closing up shop /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif. In that case, thanks for looking out for me.

Enjoy your BX22, Seth.

 

[Gunfighter]

Talked with J.D. dealer this afternoon, he said they have two on order an just received confirmation they are in transit. The dealer expects em in 4 to 6 weeks as these are Yanmar tractor, they are built in Japan...

If for some reason we can't get together on price with J.D. my second choice for a sub-compact would be a MF GC 2300.

See Attachment

 

[TresCrows]

Bigpete, a few months ago I thought you had decided to keep your 455 and get a larger tractor (larger than a subcompact). What changed your mind? (not a trick question) I can understand though many reasons for staying small /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif such as the fact it will be next Spring before I can my huge /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif 2410 out on my Lawn again without ruts since we suddenly have had all this rain. Does the 2210 JD have other tires available. I really like my ag tires on the BX and not all that fond of the R4 tires on the 2410. I wish there was something more like an R4 but softer and wider with rounded corners for turf but still had decent traction. Anyway, I bet that by Spring the 2210 will be well represented at JD dealers, the question is that really what ya want? Despite what you might think, I have seen your tractor and I see the same problem with it and I expect the same with any subcompact that the BX has, the tractors sit low and are therefore unable to utilize implements that are largely designed for tractors that sit much higher, the post hole thing comes to mind but also aerators and brushogs etc have to be modified to be used in the INTENDED manner. Yes, the 2210 has a wider space on the draw bars which will help mounting but the lift angles are very similar as is ground height to pivot points. Just something to consider on--as more subcompacts hit the market I feel sure that increasing numbers of specifically designed implements will be avaialble. Good luck. J

 

[butzkeg]

I noticed yesterday that the 210 loader for the 2210 was on the attachment page on JD's website.
<A target="_blank" HREF=http://products.deere.com/webapp/commerce/command/CategoryDisplay?cgnbr=CUTATT&cgmenbr=8416&path=GC&cgrfnbr=295955&pcat=295955&prnbr=130DLV1005&prrfnbr=267481&SelectCat=295955&SelectProd=267481&PrevCatRef=302497&PrevCatcgnbr=CUT@GC&Navigation=ATTACHMENTS>Deere 210 Loader</A> Maybe they are getting close to putting the 2210 back on the website.

 

[bigpete]

Hey, J. There is still a possibility that I will end up with two tractors but a little real estate transaction fell through this Fall and I'm still sitting/living on 7 acres of pretty well-developed land and I like the idea of keeping a smaller (weight) unit at the primary homestead. I may go ahead with the 2210 if there are good incentives or a better quote before the holidays. I can always buy the big dog in the next couple of years this way.

My search for a second plot of land continues but land acquisition is now the contingency which is different than my situation in August/September. I thought I had a deal and was ready to expand my storage capacity and buy a nice two-axle trailer to accommodate the second unit. Now I'm back to the "Swiss Army Knife" logic. Since I'm just as schizophrenic about this as most any buyer, you may read of me bragging about my new 4115, 2410 or Boomer in a couple of months. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

Regards,

 

[SethO]

Bigpete,

You don't have to resort to name calling.

The fact of the matter is that JD posted and then withdrew information about the 2210 from their site. You will be well served to find out why that happened.

Good luck in your quest.

 

[bigpete]

Well, Seth, I doubt it's a conspiracy but you may pursue that angle if you wish. Most likely it's an I.T. faux pas. Perhaps an intentional teaser leak. It sure caused a lot of pre-release chatter, didn't it? Even with people who already own a machine in that class..../w3tcompact/icons/hmm.gif

BTW, I never call names...sticks and stones, you know.

 

[bigpete]

Hi, Butzkeg. I noticed that also. All of the specs are still there under the "Accessorize" option on the Configurator. I don't see anything about the front blade option that is pictured in the PDF sell-in documents that I have. If you would like a copy of those PDF files, send me a private message with your email and I will forward them to you. The files are of the 2210 CUT and 210 loader. They are both too large to post here and may be copyrighted, which would be a no-no as well, according to site rules and Muhammed.

I was told this morning by one of the dealers that I'm working with that he has two 2210s ordered for customers and one Demo on the way scheduled to arrive the week of November 18. The customer units may not be in until after Thanksgiving.


Is there any way to truncate that link? I'm getting carpal tunnel syndrome and vertigo at the same time scrolling right-to-left. Maybe it's my setup...if so, consider this withdrawn.