Anyone else waiting to see if tractors without the EPA stuff are coming?

[vanskills]

Obviously a lot has changed Government wise in the USA

I was in the market for a new tractor (I have a 2015 Kioti 6010 now that I like) but wanted to step up to a bigger tractor

Long story short I’m waiting to see if any expected EPA announcements on tractor exhaust deregulation is coming

I heard it is very soon for trucks

 

[airbiscuit]

There may be an executive order, but no manufacturer in their right mind is going to backtrack, only to face the same standards or lawsuits in the future. I haven't heard of any changes in standards in the countries we export to.
Dare to Dream though.

 

[vanskills]

There may be an executive order, but no manufacturer in their right mind is going to backtrack, only to face the same standards or lawsuits in the future. I haven't heard of any changes in standards in the countries we export to.
Dare to Dream though.

Ya obviously I have no idea, just waiting to see what happens

I know the diesel trucks are getting EPA rollbacks on emissions, that came out two days ago

Just hoping it rolls down to us, I would LOVE to buy a emission free new tractor

 

[4570Man]

There may be an executive order, but no manufacturer in their right mind is going to backtrack, only to face the same standards or lawsuits in the future. I haven't heard of any changes in standards in the countries we export to.
Dare to Dream though.

I wouldn’t be so sure. It’s well known that consumers hate the emissions equipment’s reduced reliability and even more so the cost. If it was made legal I think you would see it disappear in a hurry.

 

[ultrarunner]

I wouldn’t be so sure. It’s well known that consumers hate the emissions equipment’s reduced reliability and even more so the cost. If it was made legal I think you would see it disappear in a hurry.

Maybe not a full rollback but a partial?

The L3800 is a good reliable tractor and held its value in part because it is not burdened with added emission equipment of newer models.

It’s nice to have options and regen and def might not be a buyers preference?

 

[jyoutz]

If compact tractors were made in the U.S. for only U.S. sales, they might change the machine and offer them. But tractor components are mostly made in other countries and marketed worldwide. European countries have emissions standards also, so to offer a machine with no emissions would mean that companies would have to make models specifically for the U.S. market. Maybe, maybe not.

 

[4570Man]

If compact tractors were made in the U.S. for only U.S. sales, they might change the machine and offer them. But tractor components are mostly made in other countries and marketed worldwide. European countries have emissions standards also, so to offer a machine with no emissions would mean that companies would have to make models specifically for the U.S. market. Maybe, maybe not.

They have been making tractors for countries without emission restrictions the whole time so I don’t see what the issue is. The emission equipment costs thousands of dollars and consumers hate the decreased reliability and increased fuel consumption so I think manufacturers would jump at the chance to get rid of it. If one manufacturer ditches it that would be a substantial marketing advantage so I expect all of them follow suit.

 

[jyoutz]

They have been making tractors for countries without emission restrictions the whole time so I don’t see what the issue is. The emission equipment costs thousands of dollars and consumers hate the decreased reliability and increased fuel consumption so I think manufacturers would jump at the chance to get rid of it. If one manufacturer ditches it that would be a substantial marketing advantage so I expect all of them follow suit.

I guess we’ll see.

 

[4570Man]

I guess we’ll see.

I’m not holding my breath that the rules get relaxed to start with but given the chance my vote is manufacturers immediately ditch the emissions equipment.

 

[goeduck]

I don't know enough about engine designs, but if a "factory delete" could remove the emissions for 4 years and leave the rest of the engine as is, could they not just add the emission carp back on in 4 years? Or 8 years, 12 years..... (if we keep winning the WH)?