Dr_Zinj
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My new CT230 is a hydro. Only problem is I occasionally find myself pushing the clutch and trying to manually shift gears to go backwards before I remember to just rock the pedal back. DUH! :laughing:
Anything but a hydro...why?
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Piston
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On the other side of this statement, I think if some larger tractors were also available in HST the manufacturers would sell more of them. I have an HST now and really want to get a bigger tractor, however, I love the HST so much that it is the ONLY thing holding me back from buying a bigger, more capable tractor.
Will they start offering the larger tractors with HST in the future? Or is there a point where HST is just not effective enough to be efficiently manufactured?
If I could get a JD 5M with Hydro, I'd "add to cart" right now!
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Jay4200
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Yea, I believe that my L4200 with HD loader and BH weighs in somewhere right around 6000 pounds. I can lift, throw, drag, and drop my tractor with the backhoe effortlessly. It doesn't make any difference if the parking brake is on or not, and/or if the front end is lifted too with the bucket. OTOH, my BH9000 backhoe is a real beast.
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Ken
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And you are probably happy as a clam.. do not EVER use a hydro tractor, especially for loader work or tight mowing or anything that requires a lot of directional changes, because all it will do is cause hate and discontent. Don't ask me how I know
James K0UA
This man could be still driving a Ford Model "T" When the "A" came out the "T" was put in the barn. Old Henry held for mechanical brakes until must of been in the 40's Hydraulics won there also.
Then the Auto transmission my sister had a '48 Dodge with clutch and slush box transmission.At a traffic light either shift or floorboard the throttle pedal and hang on it will move shortly.
The old Fergerson or the Ford model 9 series of farm tractors were good in there day but improvements continued until we have Hydro.
I will take almost any type as long as it is shuttle shift Hydro shift power reverser or what ever it is called
still shifted by fluid.
ken
Travesh
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None of my HST tractors have clutch pedals. Are some of us missing out? My New Holland has two non-synchronized mechanical ranges. Are you able to shift between ranges on the move by engaging the clutch pedal?
Travesh
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On the other side of this statement, I think if some larger tractors were also available in HST the manufacturers would sell more of them. I have an HST now and really want to get a bigger tractor, however, I love the HST so much that it is the ONLY thing holding me back from buying a bigger, more capable tractor.
Will they start offering the larger tractors with HST in the future? Or is there a point where HST is just not effective enough to be efficiently manufactured?
If I could get a JD 5M with Hydro, I'd "add to cart" right now!
Couldn't agree more. So there are apparently a number of us out there and we're all wrong.
I use a utility tractor for loader work, road maintenance, snowblowing, field mowing, etc. The only one of those areas where HST isn't a clear winner is the mowing.
So I'm queued up right behind you waiting on the HST 5M.
On the other side of this statement, I think if some larger tractors were also available in HST the manufacturers would sell more of them. I have an HST now and really want to get a bigger tractor, however, I love the HST so much that it is the ONLY thing holding me back from buying a bigger, more capable tractor.
Will they start offering the larger tractors with HST in the future? Or is there a point where HST is just not effective enough to be efficiently manufactured?
If I could get a JD 5M with Hydro, I'd "add to cart" right now!
As a point of reference, all Caterpillar track loaders (up to 263 hp and 62,000 lbs, their largest) are hydrostats. Cat Products: Products>Current Machine Line>Track Loaders>Large Track Loaders>973D So it's possible to build a really big HST when it makes sense.
kiotiken
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Daedong CUTs (Kioti/Bobcat/McCormick/Landini) do have a clutch pedal on the HST model. You can't start it unless it's pushed in and they have a lock to lock it open if it's being stored, other than that, it's not used. I could be completely wrong, but I think some Kubotas have them too.
You can only shift on the move with the Kubota HST+ (I believe JD has a version called eHydro). Daedong uses the older HST type transmission and you have to stop to change ranges.
http://www.kubota.com/f/products/L40flash/index.html
