Are LED Light Bulbs a Fire Risk

   / Are LED Light Bulbs a Fire Risk #31  
I'm guessing the dull glow is either because the switch controlling the light is not a simple mechanical switch but a semiconductor (usually a timer or dimmer) , or that the leakage between conductors in a romex cable is enough to cause a dull glow. And I have witnessed this here at home myself.
 
   / Are LED Light Bulbs a Fire Risk #32  
I'm guessing the dull glow is either because the switch controlling the light is not a simple mechanical switch but a semiconductor (usually a timer or dimmer) , or that the leakage between conductors in a romex cable is enough to cause a dull glow. And I have witnessed this here at home myself.

It's just a run of the mill on off switch. Nothing more....nothing less.
 
   / Are LED Light Bulbs a Fire Risk #33  
When two conductors run parallel as in a romex cable, essentialy this creates a capacitor (two conductors seperated by an insulator). And with AC voltage presnt, a small amount of current will flow through this capacitor (according to electrical theory) and cause the LED lamp to glow dimly. No safety issues at all.
 
   / Are LED Light Bulbs a Fire Risk #35  
Not neccessarily, you must take power factor into consideration.
 
   / Are LED Light Bulbs a Fire Risk #36  
I don 't through them away . I keep them for temporary emergency use . Also I have a few incandescent in my pump house for heating the pipes so I can use them their .
That is one place I haven't swapped out my incandescent bulb!

The good news is you skipped the CFL era. You didn't miss a thing. LED is far superior in my opinion.
Yeah I totally passed on the CFLs. Never liked how they were slow to get to full bright and the fact that many were not supposed to be used with the bulb facing down or in recessed lighting.
 
   / Are LED Light Bulbs a Fire Risk #37  
A led light uses a "driver" meaning a circuit that drops the ac down from line voltage to something closer like 12 volts and then rectify's it to dc. There are probably many different ways this is done.
There it also likely another circuit that "PULSES" the DC voltage at around 1khz at a 50% duty cycle resulting in a 50% power savings again because it is only on half the time, flashing so fast the human eye cannot see it.
The circuit board likely has a heat sink built onto it to protect the power transistor that will melt without it.

Short answer, yes the led use much less power and produces little heat, but the circuit board can produce quite a high temp in a small spot. I haven't heard or witnessed a glow on leds, they can be dimmed by dropping the current across them.
If you turn off the switch, your cutting off the power to the circuit feeding the light and there is likely a capacitor that works like a "shock absorber" to limit the current surge in the circuit. This also slowly bleeds off the power causing your electronic wall chargers lights to slowly dim out after you unplug them. Haven't seen a glow, but I cannot think of any other reason for it.
CFLs use a "ballast" meaning a transformer that raises the line voltage to 600v or more to ionize the gas in the tube causing it to glow. The transformers can get pretty hot. The tubes still glow for a long time after they lose power as the gas de- ionizes.

I just Googled the glow on electronics websights, it is fairly common it seems. The general consensus is that there isn't enough current available in a Romex capacitive situation to cause a glow. The most likely culprit they think might be a switched neutral leaking just enough current to make it glow... soo.... good time for some electrical safety.... don't assume that because the switch is off, that the neutral is dead as well... on three phase lighting, that will kill you!
 
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   / Are LED Light Bulbs a Fire Risk #38  
The packaging on the LEDs says not to use in a closed application. Is this due to a risk or early failure of the bulb?

I can't find an LED light that DOESN'T say this on the packaging. So what am I supposed to use in my enclosed fixtures? I would like to go all LED if possible but I guess it isn't.
 
   / Are LED Light Bulbs a Fire Risk #39  
I can't find an LED light that DOESN'T say this on the packaging. So what am I supposed to use in my enclosed fixtures? I would like to go all LED if possible but I guess it isn't.
Unenclose your fixtures :laughing: Seriously are you talking about fully enclosed (sealed) or can lighting or ???
 
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   / Are LED Light Bulbs a Fire Risk #40  
A led light uses a "driver" meaning a circuit that drops the ac down from line voltage to something closer like 12 volts and then rectify's it to dc. There are probably many different ways this is done.
There it also likely another circuit that "PULSES" the DC voltage at around 1khz at a 50% duty cycle resulting in a 50% power savings again because it is only on half the time, flashing so fast the human eye cannot see it.
The circuit board likely has a heat sink built onto it to protect the power transistor that will melt without it.

I hate to correct anyone, but in reality the electronics driving the LESs are quite efficient and need little or no heat sinking. It is the LED that generates most of the heat. Typical LEDs have 15-20% luminous efficiency. So if you take the wattage of the light, 80-85% of that is dissipated as heat. Nearly all of the cooling requirements are for the LED(s).

paul
 

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