Are our grandkids getting too sissified?

   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #121  
IMO this is only a possible scenario afterward if the current diversity would escalate exponentially into another civil war...

Don't be so ready to give up...some fires burn underground...
America hadn't seen a unity like the one following the 911 tragedy since after the attack on Pearl Harbor...That type of underlying unity is still there...The shame is what it takes to bring it out...

I certainly hope there is still time for our children and grandchildren. Scary times.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #122  
I certainly hope there is still time for our children and grandchildren. Scary times.

The bleeding hearts do everything they can to influence the naive...they have it down to a science...
In general I think they tend to mean well but they absolutely cannot see the big picture and the damage they are doing...
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #123  
Yeah, I think I've mentioned before being in Boy Scouts going on a canoe trip, all the adult piling into one car, and me, the 16 year old, driving 5 fourteen year olds up to the U.P. of Michigan, at night.
Boy scouts are so risk adverse, surprised they allow them to camp anymore. Course they have a mountain of paperwork required to do it.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #124  
I never ate in a restaurant until I was in about 7th grade. We would take lunch to school in a brown paper bag and have to return the bag home to be reused the next day. The bag would only be thrown out after it was too ripped up to hold lunch. Even then I think it was burned in the wood stove to start a fire. If I couldn稚 eat everything the food had to be brought home to feed the animals. NO throwing out of food unless it was rotten. Those were the days. Even to this day I can稚 stand thowing out food and when I do it gets composted.

Oh and the tractors never had good batteries. We always had to kick start them (gas).

Only ate out once a year... on my birthday and it was instead of a party... still remember waiting all year for that prime rib dinner... never fast food... always brought a sandwich and more often a hard boiled egg...

On the farm... everything went to the pigs... really had no garbage... grandparents didn't own a can opener... everything from scratch and mason jars... no refrigeration... only a very cool cellar... until 1970.

As for school... the old county school house was on the ranch... the original family donated 1 acre for a public school and it was in use as a school until 1912... then it was used another 40 years or so for Grange Meetings, Scouts, etc...

The gift came with a provision that the property must be used for public education... so when the county stopped maintaining the school it sat for a number of years... my brother went through the deeds and was able to get that 1 acre back as it had not been used for education for decades...

Dad was born in 1927...
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #126  
I remember when Vagrants and Drifters were run out of town by the Law. Vigilante groups usually did what the Law couldn't or wouldn't do. My sister and I felt very safe growing up in the 50s and 60s.

Now they are given money, issued a tent and sleep downtown in the big city. Maybe not in Alaska, but down here they do.

They may not be pedophiles but they are vagrants
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #127  
Now they are given money, issued a tent and sleep downtown in the big city. Maybe not in Alaska, but down here they do.

They may not be pedophiles but they are vagrants

Same in Anchorage. I don't go there anymore because of the filth and the crime. Never learned how to tolerate drunks either or panhandlers. Not sure what happened to my compassion and empathy.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #128  
My nephew, who crawled up toward the tip of the spear insofar as our Armed forces go explained to me that his is a weak generation.
What does that mean?

I say ********. That “weak generation” fought in Iraq and Afghanistan and did just fine. The old timers thought the WWII generation was weak because they were: many of them gained 20-30 lbs once they started getting three meals a day. The WWII vets though the kids coming of age in Korea weak. The Korean War vets thought the Vietnam era weak: bunch of hippie pot smokers. My Drill Sergeants were all Vietnam vets and probably thought we were *******, and we thought the generation we trained were iffy: the kids who pushed the Iraqis out of Kuwait in four days.

Our elected officials seem every bit as venal as ever though.

Not sure about what is going on with driver’s licenses. We live in the city so the kids have access to subways and busses, and cars expensive to maintain. But my oldest daughter was at the RMV to get her permit the day she was eligible, my 2nd ditto, and my third has the day he is eligible to start driving in NH (15-1/2) marked on his calendar (9/4/18). His sister (18) is getting her motorcycle license this summer. Most of their closest friends have licenses. The kids who do not are often single parent families.

Growing up in the 50s and 60s was wonderful for me. Freedoms galore and nothing bad that I was aware of. Played outside until dark on most days and had no worries. Life was a dream. Got my first .22 at ten and never thought it odd. Times were just so much different then.
Yeah, safety glasses and hearing protection! This is his sister’s rifle, though, he got his own at 10.

My experience in the Army was that the kids who grew up with guns were safer and better shots, so I exposed my kids to basic marksmanship early, including riflery at summer camp. The difference is they cannot mention a word of it in school in a state that is proud to have elected John Kerry and Elizabeth Warren as US Senators.
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   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #129  
Boy scouts are so risk adverse, surprised they allow them to camp anymore. Course they have a mountain of paperwork required to do it.

Actually the paperwork isn't bad at all.

The issue is when you have kids driving with other adults and ensuring that the adults have proper car insurance as well as having the trip the "sanctioned" (covered by scout insurance). I thought this was hogwash myself until I found out one parent was busted for driving without car insurance. Odds are you won't get into an accident, but if you do, if something is missed, it can be a pain in the butt.

The biggest issue with Scouts today IMO is that a lot of parents want to use meetings and weekend activities as a child day care and just drop their kids off. When you only have 3 adults and 10 kids, logistics can be a nightmare doing an activity, logistics can be a nightmare. General rule to cover the adults butt is no two adults deep per ANY child under supervision. This is to protect both the adult and child when the parent isn't there.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #130  
What does that mean?

I say ********. That 努eak generation fought in Iraq and Afghanistan and did just fine.

He claims that he has more problems working with young men who are struggling to handle the stresses of being deployed amd work effectively, and that older soldiers claim they didn't have as many incidents. He also got to see how many people dropped out of the various schools he went through--a�lthough many of them have traditionally had a high drop-out rate. At any-rate, my nephew is now 34 years old and in light of his experience, he told me that he considered his generation weak back when he was 27 years old.

Growing up with guns-wise, last summer a friend of mine's 12 year old asked me if we had nurf guns when we were kids and I said, "No, we had real guns."
 

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