Are our grandkids getting too sissified?

   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #161  
We were at dinner with one of my female colleagues (we are both forensic psychologists) when the phone rang, she had her hands full and just elbowed the hands free function and the usual 'hello', the heavy breathing started and a deep voice 'guess what I am holding in my hand while I'm talking to you', her instant response was 'if you can hold it in one hand I am not interested' and hung up.
That was about 30 years ago and we still laugh about it and what sort of an effect it must have had on the caller.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #162  
Good for the girls. That is one good thing about these times. Men and boys that act that way have another thing coming these days, and they deserve it. They need to learn to be a gentleman.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #163  
One of my sisters was in 8th grade when a bully in her class was hitting another kid. My sister ran over and kicked him in the ****. She broke her toe! :laughing:
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #164  
Yet every year we hear about kids getting injured or worse from lawnmower etc. accidents...

Don't call too much attention to that or the child "advocates" will make it illegal to have a kid mow a lawn, citing child labor laws, the psychological damage to a young psyche caused by sweat, etc, etc.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #165  
One of my sisters was in 8th grade when a bully in her class was hitting another kid. My sister ran over and kicked him in the ****. She broke her toe! :laughing:

My wife broke her foot in a self defense class :rolleyes:
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #166  
Guess my parents could have been jailed;
I had to walk 2 blocks to catch a (greyhound like) buss for a 30 min ride, transfer to a streetcar and walk 3 blocks to attend grade 3 school.

Also 1st grade was a lesser but similar trek, and misguided my mother made me wear shorts and leather gators so that I'd look like a little gentleman.
Traumatic it was to me as that neighborhood was "billy boots and jeans" style neighborhood, certainly not shirt and tie.
Naturally it was the grades 5 and 6 ers that were the agitators.
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #167  
My wife broke her foot in a self defense class :rolleyes:

I was a recipient of a foot in the family jewels in a self defence class, I was in my 20's and still get watery eyes thinking about it, the deliverer of the foot slipped during a kick and I went down like a bag of.....
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #168  
I have a picture of my little girl, about 10 years old, orange belt, with her foot smack in the middle of a 6' tall 14 year old boy white belt with an attitude problem's crotch! He's backed into a corner, both of his feet are about 6" off the ground, and he's making the "I'm up in the air with a foot in my crotch" face. :laughing:

He was new to the class, only a few weeks in, and not giving any of the little kids with upper belts any respect, and not listenening to Sensie. Plus, he kept doing that TV kung-fu stuff. So Sensie had enough, asked him if he wanted to do some sparring, and when he said yes, Sensie picked a little, tiny girl (my daughter), to spar against him. He laughed and said you gotta be kidding. Senie told him no joke, spar with a little girl. So the kid steps up to my daughter, is a foot and a half taller than her and laughs. Sensie gets between them, drops his hand and says Hajime, and this little blonde tornado goes nuts on the kid with three kicks past his nose, gets him leaning back and forces him into the corner. Sensie stops the round and asks if he's gonna spar or dance? So they go again, and she backs him into the corner again pretty quick. Third time he decides to stand his ground... and she lands one in his crotch lifting him off the ground! Sensie stops the round and asks if the kid is OK. He's sweating bullets. Sensie sits him down and tells him if he wants to stay in class, he has to give that little girl and all the other higher ranked students the respect they've earned, and in return, they'll respect him and teach him something. Over the next few months and years, the kid really turned around. He started progressing well, had great respect towards others, and ended up a nice, articulate young man and earned his black belt. He and my daughter became good friends and sparring partners over the years. :thumbsup:
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #169  
Going up against a bully doesn't always have to be physical.

My mother in law thought a boy at church was cute so she was trying to fix him up with my youngest daughter. They were both juniors at the local high school at the time. She was surprised when she asked him about my daughter, he said he was afraid of her. MIL was stunned at his comment and asked him how he could be afraid of a girl a head shorter than him and fifty pounds lighter. He replied that if she got it in for you she could make it rough on you at school. It would take her less than a week until everybody in the school would be laughing at you and making fun of you. If you got called on in class she would make a comment and the teachers would laugh. Even the teachers would go along with her making fun and ridiculing somebody. And he said that she had bodyguards who walked with her!!!!

So I sat her down and had a long talk about the negative aspects of being a 'queen bee' at school. She said she had only turned the school against three or four bullies. And her bodyguards were a couple of large female basketball players and some girls who dated football players. We had several long talks about her manipulative behavior and how it could backfire on her. Nothing bad ever happened but I still worried.

RSKY
 
   / Are our grandkids getting too sissified? #170  
I read the whole thread and enjoyed every comment. Personally I think my parents were crazy the way they raised us. Okay it was in a safe secluded area, only 7 houses and one of them was a summer house for a wealthy family, so count that 6 occupied houses. It was just us and the next door neighbors who had kids, they had 5 kids, we had four kids so safety wise I guess you could say it was safe. We had to get along with the neighbor kids as they were our only playmates, there was no bullying. We grew up on a lake and we did follow strict rules, we never ever went in the row boat (and my parents never bought a motor) without a life jacket. Starting when I was in 6th grade & that would put my little sister in 2nd grade when my mom went to work full time, our parents would leave in the morning after waking us up. We were on our own to get breakfast, get dressed & then off to the bus. And the neighbor kids had the exact same set up.

We would come home from school and be completely unsupervised and play outside. When I think of the crazy stuff we did, I honestly can't believe none of us ever got a broken bone. In the winter we would sled and ice skate until our feet were totally frozen. However my parents had a rule that we couldn't go on the lake until my dad tested it in winter. He would wait until he though the lake was good and frozen then go down with an ax and chop a big hole so he could verify how thick the ice was. In the summers we rode bikes, went all over that lake up the little cricks, and our parents had no idea at all what we were doing. They had no idea, we just came in when it was dark. They had just a couple of safety rules which we strenuously followed and that was it. Lunch? Well go in the kitchen and find something to make yourself for lunch. We drank about 2 gallons of kool-aid made with real sugar every day, we never had pop, it was milk, kool-aid or water. No popsicles either, we made our own out of kool-aid. If we had a nickle we would ride our bikes on a fairly busy road to the liquor store who also sold candy. My parents didn't think anything of it, we riding our bikes to the liquor store. Well to be honest the liquor store also sold bread & milk, but still, it was a liquor store.

In the summer many days they left us lists of work to do but other than that we were completely on our own. When I think of the trees we used to climb, I just shake my head. I did not raise my children how I was raised, and my kids turned out great. If they would have had that forest kindergarten when my kids were young I would have sent them to that in a heartbeat. My grandchildren are being raised just a little different than I raised my daughter, but they are being raised really really well. Just like I did, she let's the grandkids start and manage the campfire starting around age 5, you are right there so no big deal and the kids learn real quick about hot fires that way :). It's different growing up in suburbia than growing up in the country. Do I think young children should be left on their own unsupervised all summer long, uh no, I don't think that is wise, not nowadays and not when I was raising our children but look, I turned out okay so maybe it really doesn't matter one way or the other.

I enjoyed all of your comments and sharing, thank you so much.
 

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