Are the filled????

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Is there an clean and easy way to check if the rear tires on my tractor are liquid filled?


The guy I bought it from said he thought they were but I'm having some doubts, I've got 600lbs worth of wheel weights and a 350lb concrete dock piling block on the rear along with the possibly filled tires and my tractor still struggles to back up small hills without spinning up a storm. Granted it's a 2 wheel drive tractor but it does have alot of weight and a set of chains on the tires, I think it should do better. I'm hoping the tires aren't filled so that I can add liquid and gain another 800-900 lbs:D
 
   / Are the filled???? #2  
Rotate the tire till the air valve is equal to half the tire 45 degress from TDC. and let out some air - if water comes out then your tires are 1/2 full, if not keep rotating till water comes out, next turn 1/4 full etc.
 
   / Are the filled???? #3  
I thought I read somewhere and it might have been here that if your tires are filled with Calcium that they should be filled above the rim because of corrosion? Can anyone confirm this?
 
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I thought I read somewhere and it might have been here that if your tires are filled with Calcium that they should be filled above the rim because of corrosion? Can anyone confirm this?

Yes, they must be filled above the rim but will still corrode out. It happened to my 861 and by the time it was all over cost about a grand. I now run WWF.

Chris
 
   / Are the filled???? #6  
On my tires I just tap on the outside of the tire, starting low and working up, and the sound changes when I move across the liquid/air interface, which is near the top of the rim on my tires.
 
   / Are the filled???? #7  
i had my tires filled with calcium without tubes the rimes rotted ,i had to weld them then i added tubes .
 
   / Are the filled???? #8  
When it is well below zero and high humidity there will be condensation on filled tires. But Catdriver spells it out: Whatever the valve stem position is when fluid emits will show the filled portion of the tire.
 
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What is an easy way to tell if my tires have tubes? I think I need to get rid of this Calcium if it is in the tire tubeless! :eek:

jack the wheel up. pull valve stem with it at top.. see if it's sealed tot he rim or loose..

soundguy
 
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jack the wheel up. pull valve stem with it at top.. see if it's sealed tot he rim or loose..

soundguy

Doesn't that depend on the tire/tube/valve size and type ?
I think once you get to .... ( over some size or load rating ) they're secured through the rim with a nut.

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GENERALLY jack up the wheel, put the valve at 12 o'clock, remove the valve stem.
If liquid comes out they are FULL, like WAY FULL !
Rotate the wheel SLOWLY and note at what point liquid comes out, there was a table or formula somewhere that showed how to convert clock positions to percentage full.

Get a tiny bit of it on your finger and touch it to the end of your tongue, you will KNOW if it is CaCl - don't lick or swallow, just spit a few times (-:
I haven't done this with RimGuard, but if it is in fact beet juice residue I would expect it to be sweet tasting... ?
 
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Doesn't that depend on the tire/tube/valve size and type ?
I think once you get to .... ( over some size or load rating ) they're secured through the rim with a nut.

----------------------
GENERALLY jack up the wheel, put the valve at 12 o'clock, remove the valve stem.
If liquid comes out they are FULL, like WAY FULL !
Rotate the wheel SLOWLY and note at what point liquid comes out, there was a table or formula somewhere that showed how to convert clock positions to percentage full.

Get a tiny bit of it on your finger and touch it to the end of your tongue, you will KNOW if it is CaCl - don't lick or swallow, just spit a few times (-:
I haven't done this with RimGuard, but if it is in fact beet juice residue I would expect it to be sweet tasting... ?

I don't mess around beets much, but antifreeze will be sorta sweet, too. One of the reasons it's dangerous to animals and small children.
I've got low(not non-)tox antifreeze mixed in the rears on my H. Not as much weight gain as calcium, but easy to deal with, non-corrosive, and a few gallons in each will prevent a hard freeze down to a temperature at which I'm not going outside no-how.
Wm
 
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and you have some sort of a problem with pulling the outside retainer nut and seeing if the valve stem is attatched to a tub or just free hanging?

soundguy


Doesn't that depend on the tire/tube/valve size and type ?
I think once you get to .... ( over some size or load rating ) they're secured through the rim with a nut.

----------------------
GENERALLY jack up the wheel, put the valve at 12 o'clock, remove the valve stem.
If liquid comes out they are FULL, like WAY FULL !
Rotate the wheel SLOWLY and note at what point liquid comes out, there was a table or formula somewhere that showed how to convert clock positions to percentage full.

Get a tiny bit of it on your finger and touch it to the end of your tongue, you will KNOW if it is CaCl - don't lick or swallow, just spit a few times (-:
I haven't done this with RimGuard, but if it is in fact beet juice residue I would expect it to be sweet tasting... ?
 
   / Are the filled???? #14  
and you have some sort of a problem with pulling the outside retainer nut and seeing if the valve stem is attatched to a tub or just free hanging?

soundguy

Errrr, No - no problem with DOING that.
I just have never had to do it and so don't know how obvious the difference is between a tube and no tube on those size/load-rated tires.
Do the valves really "just hang free" in a tubeless rim once the nut is spun back ?
I would expect some sort of a "taper fit" for effective sealing.
Can one EASILY push/pull on a valve and sense that there is a tube attached ?
Again, I would expect a taper fit of fairly hard rubber into a steel hole, not something that can easily be wiggled around.

My expectations are based on assumptions, such as these ain't just like auto or truck tires.
Of course, I could be wrong - I like to be wrong, it is how I learn (-:
 
   / Are the filled???? #15  
there is no need for there to be an ultra tight fit for a tube tire stem into the rim.. it's not 'sealing' anything... a tubeless stem will have a seat and compression ring or fitting.. the tube stem literally slips into the hole in the rim..

soundguy
 

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