Are tractors and equipment a good investment right now?

[CloverKnollFarms]

Sorta difficult to affect camber on a MFWD tractor without creating major and noticeable damage

 

[Yander]

Congrats on the purchase! I agree with the dealer, I wouldn't be concerned by it.

 

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Hey there, I want to thank y’all for the advice. I pulled the trigger and went ahead and purchased the 2018 gc 1720 tlb. Quick question… as the dealer was putting the tractor on the trailer I noticed the left front tire was kinda kicked out and not on the same angle of the right front. When I brought it to their attention they expressed it was normal and not a concern. Could y’all please look at pics of the right front vs the left front and let me know if this something I should be concerned about. Any advice would be greatly appreciated thank you.

If this tractor has any positive camber from the factory, it should be equal to both sides.
One side should not be disproportionate to the other.
That the dealer brushed you off saying it was normal irritates me to no end as we would never sell a tractor displaying this w/o checking it out.
I do not know where the tie rod is on this tractor but if it’s behind the front axle, check to see if the heim joint on this side is equal to the other as far as throw out is concerned or that the tie rod itself is not bent.
Excessive toe in can cause a false vision geometry as well.

 

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Congrats on the purchase! I agree with the dealer, I wouldn't be concerned by it.

I don’t agree with this dealer’s proclamation of “normalcy” in the least unless l checked it out first.
One side cocked eyed to the other is certainly not normal and can most certainly be a future trouble spot down the road.

 

[Yander]

I don't see the difference in the pic I'm looking at. I disagree that it's anything to worry about.

Put the tractor to work and don't worry about it.

 

[Rookie22]

Thank you for reply Yande.

 

[Rookie22]

I don’t agree with this dealer’s proclamation of “normalcy” in the least unless l checked it out first.
One side cocked eyed to the other is certainly not normal and can most certainly be a future trouble spot down the road.

Thank you for inoutb

I don’t agree with this dealer’s proclamation of “normalcy” in the least unless l checked it out first.
One side cocked eyed to the other is certainly not normal and can most certainly be a future trouble spot down the road.

If this tractor has any positive camber from the factory, it should be equal to both sides.
One side should not be disproportionate to the other.
That the dealer brushed you off saying it was normal irritates me to no end as we would never sell a tractor displaying this w/o checking it out.
I do not know where the tie rod is on this tractor but if it’s behind the front axle, check to see if the heim joint on this side is equal to the other as far as throw out is concerned or that the tie rod itself is not bent.
Excessive toe in can cause a false vision geometry as well.

thank you for your advice arrow

 

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I don't see the difference in the pic I'm looking at. I disagree that it's anything to worry about.

Put the tractor to work and don't worry about it.

Interesting that what you cannot see is nothing to worry about.
Let’s pretend it was your tractor and you did see it and you just paid 15 thousand dollars for a used tractor that has one wheel more cocked than the other that you haven’t even used yet.
That’d be ok with you then?
Not one of the 40 tractors on our lot has a mismatched front camber. This was a used tractor so can a possibility exist where the previous owner in some way caused this?

Minor problem or not,
We would never send a customer away with a question mark in his or her head as this dealer did, without addressing the question in a systematic way.
Would you want to be treated any differently?

 

[Yander]

Interesting that what you cannot see is nothing to worry about.
Let’s pretend it was your tractor and you did see it and you just paid 15 thousand dollars for a used tractor that has one wheel more cocked than the other that you haven’t even used yet.
That’d be ok with you then?
Not one of the 40 tractors on our lot has a mismatched front camber. This was a used tractor so can a possibility exist where the previous owner in some way caused this?

Minor problem or not,
We would never send a customer away with a question mark in his or her head as this dealer did, without addressing the question in a systematic way.
Would you want to be treated any differently?

Well apparently it isn't obvious enough that I don't see it in the photo and the buyer didn't notice it while looking it over prior to buying.

Apparently you are the only honest dealer or whatever you do in your state. In my state I have access to and only deal with honest dealers.

So, to answer your question, I'd put it to work and not worry about it.

 

[WinterDeere]

A lot of debate here, with no confirmation the unequal camber is real, and not just an illusion. It'd take less time to park the machine on a level surface to check camber on both sides, to see if one side is really different than the other, than has been spent typing about it here.

I have a pretty good eye for level and plumb, but I'd not trust any of those photos taken at odd angles, to pass any judgement here.

Note to buyer: don't let tire bulge/squash throw off your measurements, unless you're damn sure that's also equal on both sides. Best to cut a length of 2x4 just a bit longer than rim diameter, so you can bench your level or angle finder against the trim, rather than the tire.