Are WalMart SuperTech oils worth it?

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I understand the emotional need to think say Amsoil, etc is better than WM, etc brands of oil. Been there and down this yet I do see Black Stone is as an honest company and not the tool of some oil company. So when they say when running the weight and spec of motor oil that the engine maker calls for is as good as it gets wear wise I buy it.

Claims about a specific motor oil that is not backed up with data that would permit them to satisfactory prove their claims in a court of law is nothing more than a personal option that could be valid or be BS.

Having just bought our first direct injection gas engine (2012 Chevy Impala 3.6L with 30K miles) that dumps the engine oil blow-by back onto the back side of the intake valves I question the validity of extended oil change. Since DI is the rage with most all car makers I see the need to run cleaner motor oil meeting the specs of the car maker is more important for the engine than paying big $$$ for unsupported claims of motor oil companies.

When the time comes, you can remove the intake and blast the intake valves with a walnut shell medium. The typical mechanic (the one that thinks the small block is still the best thing since Bud Light) won't be aware of it. But you can find the service if you look for it.

Also, Ford's extra set of injectors on some of its new engines is to address that problem. Dual injectors. One set is for direct inject, the other set is indirect, which cleans the backside of your intake. It also lets it idle better and gives it more power. The new Mustang GT Automatic is an 11-second car right off the showroom floor. Bone stock, no tires, no nothing. Bone stock. For those of you that do actual Drag Racing, that's moving.

BTW, I drive a Ram Cummins so no Ford Fan-Boy here. Just calls 'em as I sees 'em

 

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I had a thought. Can you imagine a company having an oil blended for their brand that exceed specs and not providing technical data to support their claims.

So - either the oil meets the specs and that's it OR it exceeds specs and they have the data to prove it.

JMHO

Not accurate. Not accurate at all.

Redline doesn't publish its specs and they're one of the best there is. All Cat V (esters).

The reason they don't bother with it is -- It ain't cheap. And the API is a bunch of buttheads.

There's plenty of quality oils out there that don't publish their specs because they don't want to go through the hassle and expense. And not just engine oils, Gear Lubes as well.

It's expensive to test an oil in 200 engine and 500 rear ends. Even Mobil 1 doesn't bother with testing their new gear lube in everything.

 

[sixdogs]

I was taught years ago to always thoroughly shake a container of any oil before pouring. If you don't, just look in the bottom afterwards and you can see your additive pack sitting there. Buy great oil, don't shake and toss out the reason the great oil was bought. I shake gear and trans oil as well that are in 5 gallon buckets and do it with the "pail tipper" I wrote about a few years age. Works great.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/parts-repairs/258905-anyone-have-pail-tipper-5-a.html

 

[Ritothebull]

LOL

I have never seen Super Tech sold in a clear jug, for you to have seen what you saw.

Never said it was a clear jug?

 

[dieselcrawler]

Jug does not have to be clear to see the sediment-like additives settle to the bottom of the jug. I noticed it just a few weeks ago, in the bottom of a gallon jug of 5w20 after I had just poured it into my truck. Judging by the date code, the oil had been sitting for quite some time since it was bottled.

 

[Copperhead]

Are WalMart SuperTech branded oils, synthetic & dino, worth it or not? Same question with their gear oil and tractor trans oil? Yes or no?

I've read a lot of favorable comments lately. Seems it might be the same product the big names sell but without the obligatory nosebleed markup?

The Petroleum Quality Institute of America does random testing on many motor oils on the shelf and they have no problem with Supertech (walmart) oils. Many of them are blended by Warren Distributing which is a very reputable outfit that blends a lot of different brands of oils.

Supertech 5w30 synthetic.....
http://www.pqiamerica.com/March2013PCMO/supertech.htm

Supertech 15w40 HDEO.....
SuperTech SAE 15W-4 API CJ-4/SN

 

[drizler]

From a functional point of view the main technical differences in motor oil meeting the same specs and standards in my view is how much they spend on advertising.

I just bought 20 quarts the WM full synthetic motor with the 2nd Gen GM logo on it for $3.20 a quart. With the speed these new Direct Injection gas engines can crap up the oil and engine boggles my mind but I guess that is better than having to breath it.

You nailed the big gorilla in the room right there, DIREDT INJECTION. If you致e got it yo better not be doing extended oil changes. Besides crusting **** kout Of The valves, another never seen before problem it dilutes your oil . Great power better mileage but all the rest is . Some better than others , catch cans help nut still a major pain.

 

[ch1ch2]

You nailed the big gorilla in the room right there, DIREDT INJECTION. If you致e got it yo better not be doing extended oil changes. Besides crusting **** kout Of The valves, another never seen before problem it dilutes your oil . Great power better mileage but all the rest is . Some better than others , catch cans help nut still a major pain.

Don't have a clue what you said.
Also confused in general about what you are trying to say.
Is the engine the problem or the oil?

 

[aczlan]

Don't have a clue what you said.
Also confused in general about what you are trying to say.
Is the engine the problem or the oil?

As I read it, new direct injection engines are harder on old than older ones were and they are more prone to diluting oil with gas washing down the cylinder walls.
As such, doing extended oil changes or using cheap oil is not recommended and can cause problems

Aaron Z

 

[kenmac]

I believe diesels used direct injection long before gasoline engines. I don't have an issue extending oil drains in my diesel or my gasoline engine.
Having said that. I do UAO's from time to time too