Asbestos Siding

[2458n]

Okay thread highjack.Where do you get replacement panels.? Rental property with no bad panels for fifty years now needs 20 or more replacements.Thanks for any help.

 

[JDGREEN4ME]

Does it look like flat slate plates with textured lines up & down and each piece is about 8 inches wide and 1/8 inch thick? If so, I doubt you can put a nail through it without it breaking. The only thing to do is remove it and take it to a haz-mat dump.

Yes, that is exactly what they look like...

 

[Piston]

For you guys that say you can install siding over the asbestos siding, I'd like to know how you do that? My home has this same siding, and if you think you can drive a nail through it without it all cracking and falling off in many pieces, you haven't tried nailing into it yet

I will be removing my siding and disposing of it. I can't stand the stuff. I'm probably going to replace it with fiber cement siding, mostly because I think nothing ruins the look of a house like vinyl siding. It just looks so cheap.

 

[ultrarunner]

Okay thread highjack.Where do you get replacement panels.? Rental property with no bad panels for fifty years now needs 20 or more replacements.Thanks for any help.

I went to an old time roofing material supplier when I needed a couple of boxes.

It no longer has asbestos and the pattern varied a little... once it was up and painted it all blended in.

He said back in the day he would sell a boxcar load a week to customers in San Francisco because it was the best material for the salt air...

Fiber Cement Siding - GAF WeatherSide

Fiber Cement & Vinyl Siding : Efficient Windows & Doors of Indiana : Lafayette, Indianapolis, Carmel, Logansport

 

[jaotguy]

it doesn't cause lung cancer ... it just scars up the lung tissue , making it impossible to breathe after long exposure to it ......

so wear a good mask ....

drilling holes in tiles .... use a cement bit , an old plastic coffee can with lid and and a piece of water pipe foam insulation... make a large hole on one side of the foam and a small one on the opposite side ... put the smaller hole over the bit, and have the larger one away from the drill. cut a hole in the coffee can lid big enough to slip the foam tube through , and attach the can base ...

put down plastic on the ground below to catch the "loose dust" ...

mark hole positions ... put bit tip to hole position and push foam up against the wall to stop air born dust ... dill away ... most of the dust should fall down the "tube " and collect in the can...

clean up .... lift the plastic and collect "loose dust" , pour any collected dust into a pail of old paint or mix in with cement and make pavers

 

[KennyG]

I know they keep changing the regulations, but last time I checked asbestos only had to be treated as hazardous if it was "friable". Friable means it can be reduced to powder by the hand pressure. This makes it potentially airborne. If it's non-friable (which includes most siding, shingles and floor tile) it can be sent to a normal landfill. Of course, if you grind it or smash it, it becomes friable.

For a data point, a few years ago I redid a condominium that had asbestos floor tiles. I was able to dispose of those like any other construction debris and this was in Chicago which has some of the most restrictive codes in the world.

 

[tallyho8]

I bought an old termite eaten house next to mine that had asbestos siding and had it torn down. There were no special regulations for demolishing single family dwellings and the material went to the local landfill with no problems.

Back in 1965 when Hurricane Betsy hit New Orleans, practically every house had asbestos roofing except the older ones that had slate roofs. 99% of them were replaced with modern asphalt roofing. There were many unpaved streets and driveways at that time and many people used the old asbestos slates to fill pot holes in their driveways. On dry days, cars passing down these drives would stir up clouds of asbestos containing dust that probably caused many cases of mesothelioma in our area.

 

[2LaneCruzer]

I know they keep changing the regulations, but last time I checked asbestos only had to be treated as hazardous if it was "friable". Friable means it can be reduced to powder by the hand pressure. This makes it potentially airborne. If it's non-friable (which includes most siding, shingles and floor tile) it can be sent to a normal landfill. Of course, if you grind it or smash it, it becomes friable.

For a data point, a few years ago I redid a condominium that had asbestos floor tiles. I was able to dispose of those like any other construction debris and this was in Chicago which has some of the most restrictive codes in the world.

True. At one time, when I worked for the Health Department, enforcement of asbestos regulations was my responsibility. At that time, asbestos siding was not a big concern; folks who demolished or renovated buildings, including schools, were more of a problem. Old refineries were loaded with asbestos, and someone was always repairing, demolishing or renovating them. Some were so old and in disrepair, that birds were building nests out of the deteriorated insulating.

Asbestos siding is not considered "friable", as stated above, unless you do something that produces dust. I would suggest checking with you local county or state environmental agency concerning handling and disposal; they usually do the enforcement any way. I would never go to EPA first. MOST of the time, they just refer you to your local agency.

 

[bigtiller]

I know they keep changing the regulations, but last time I checked asbestos only had to be treated as hazardous if it was "friable". Friable means it can be reduced to powder by the hand pressure. This makes it potentially airborne. If it's non-friable (which includes most siding, shingles and floor tile) it can be sent to a normal landfill. Of course, if you grind it or smash it, it becomes friable.

For a data point, a few years ago I redid a condominium that had asbestos floor tiles. I was able to dispose of those like any other construction debris and this was in Chicago which has some of the most restrictive codes in the world.

That makes sense. I got my info in post #3 from my sisters contractor years ago. I wonder if he found a way to pad the bill? She found some old used ones and just replaced the broken siding pieces.

 

[2458n]

Thank you for the weatherside site. My siding covers a shed and a two story farm house. Insurance chalked it up to rough living and of course no coverage.