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   / Assistance with tuition #101  
But you should know what you want to do before you go to college. Same thing with before you go into the trades.

The thing people forget is that for some people, they didn't have a choice.

When my grandparents came off a boat in the early 1900's, it was make money for the family or die (which some did) trying (coal mines living in a coal town).

Overall, as much as we can complain about the United States, life isn't fair ANYWHERE in the world, but you probably have a better chance here than anywhere else.

When I see where both sets of my grandparents were at when they came off a boat, and see where I'm at now 3 generations laters, hard to convince me we aren't the greatest nation on earth no matter who the president is and what political poparty they belong to...

The US isn't perfect by a long shot, but it really is a "melting pot".
 
   / Assistance with tuition #102  
There is entirely too much emphasis placed on college educations. Started work in the family business at 12 (first credible year for SS) of sheetmetal and HVAC. While in HS became a journyman at 14 and a foreman at 16. Migrated into all aspects of refrigeration including large industrial plants. That lead to being a industrial pipefitter and welder. 26 years working for the Navy CS in Quality Assurance, facility planing. maintenance, and contracting. Concurrently spent 33 years in the Navy Reserve retiring as a W4. Toward the end of my working years worked as a Construction Project Manager and Quality Control Manager.

Never any college. Always made above average salaries and my wife did not have to work.

Raised 5 kids, only 2 went to college (their choice). All were offered bed and room, access to a car, and some $. All are doing above average financially, except one is a high achiever. He quit high school, followed the crowd till a serious accident (almost killed him) woke him up. Took a special exam at UW and qualifies as an incoming freshman. Several scholarships and PEL Grants kept him away from the loan sharks.
Degree in geology. Poor starting pay, applied for an entry level job for a high tech company. 30 years later he is making $250K/yr working for Intel as a supervising software engineer. No further college.

After Civil Service moved up in the construction world as a technical and business savvy manager until engineers and architects with only 3 years of work experience in construction became a requirement contractually for government contracts. That was considered by contractors as an entry level job with starting pay of $45-60K. I was making $130K and all of a sudden was out of work. Started a consulting business and did very well for 10 years helping those same contractors get through the morass of government contracts with project management and quality control assistance to their inept new college graduates they were forced to hire. We the tax payers are now paying more for that public work due to the degree featherbedding. Further, a lot of good technician level jobs went down the drain.

In closing, the construction trades are crying for help as the demographics of retirements are way and above exceeding the input of apprentices. Maybe good may be bad but now the drive is to more manufactured assemblies, automation, and other technical solutions. That then creates a shortage of technicians to install and repair the high tech solutions. More technical immigrants are going to be required (if congress gets off its duff) and a change in society over schooling.

Ron


:drink: :thumbsup: . . .
 
   / Assistance with tuition #103  
The thing people forget is that for some people, they didn't have a choice.

When my grandparents came off a boat in the early 1900's, it was make money for the family or die (which some did) trying (coal mines living in a coal town).

Overall, as much as we can complain about the United States, life isn't fair ANYWHERE in the world, but you probably have a better chance here than anywhere else.

When I see where both sets of my grandparents were at when they came off a boat, and see where I'm at now 3 generations laters, hard to convince me we aren't the greatest nation on earth no matter who the president is and what political poparty they belong to...

The US isn't perfect by a long shot, but it really is a "melting pot".

We are probably much tthe same, free education, free medical, subsidised rental housing, aged pension, sickness benefits and the list goes on.
You can have private health insurance or a 'gold card' if you are a retuurned serviceman, afford your own home if you work, get screwed over for foxtel if you feel you need it, 4-6 weeks annual leave plus about 12 public holidays.
It is there for the taking if you choose to.
My parents came out in 66 wiith nothing and built a little real estate portfolio which supprted them well.
We have done much the same but buying into resorts.
The goldrush is aalive and well just the colour has changed.
 

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