B7500 vs BX2200 or BX22

   / B7500 vs BX2200 or BX22 #11  
While I believe you do need a larger tractor I should point out the BX2200/22TLB has a 55 cubic inch engine while the modern day B7400 has a 44 cubic inch engine, don't remember the 7300 displacement but figure it was less than that. The BX has plenty of mowing muscle and spare left over. Everytime I use my new 2410 I become more impressed with it's power. I am also becoming hooked on the position control, very useful with the boxblade indeed. The B7500 has a 61 cubic inch engine and the 2410 another jump to 69 cubes. Also little things like a oil dip stick that can be reached by simply openeing the hood. I think it is the TBN mantra not to get to small a tractor. Oh, I think the BX22 backhoe is an adaptation of the B4672 bachoe since the specs look similar.
J
 
   / B7500 vs BX2200 or BX22 #12  
"Your observations about the limitations of the mid-mower concern me"

One thing you should know is that the BX tractors are much better deck mowers than the compact B's (7300/7500). This was confirmed to me by several dealers. The combination of lighter weight, shorter wheelbase and turning radius make the BX's better mowers. As a dealer told me recently..."if you want the best mower than also has plenty of muscle to do many other things, get a BX. If you want a compact tractor (more clearance) that will also accomodate a deck mower, get a B series."

At the end, it's all about specific needs and personal taste. Good luck!
 
   / B7500 vs BX2200 or BX22 #13  
Have you considered the 7500DT? When I prchased mine in 2000 the DT was over $1500 less than the 7500HSD and the BX2200. That much difference would buy a quality finish mower, or some other attathcments. Have 300 plus hours on mine and couldn't be more pleased. The dipsticks are an issue but a small 1. For the size and money does more than it probably should. Just another opinion.
 
   / B7500 vs BX2200 or BX22 #14  
Also remember that 3crows has no respect for the B7500, as much as I have no respect for the B2410. The way I figure it, if the B7500 is too small, then you ought to go to a B27/29. The power advantage of the B24 over the B75 is almost nill.
 
   / B7500 vs BX2200 or BX22 #15  
No, I think I have recommended the 7500 numerous times. No I will not defend myself, I prefer to take the offense, now, wasn't it you who took great joy when I first came to TBN in dissmissing the BX as a lawnmower. Then you went to great lengths to develop charts and engine statistics and torque curves to prove the point and then to repeat the cliche that bigger is better? Of course the problem here is that now I have a larger tractor than you and a smaller one as well and this strangely seem to upset you.
People come here looking for opinions, mine is as valid as yours and perhaps more so since I have at least some experience with all three units. I think the problem is that some folks have diffuculty in accepting that not everyone will always agree with them all the time. You do not like me because I do not agree with you on many subjects and that I am as equally capable of defending a point of view. Oddly, what I always liked and respected about you was your level headed approach and logical reasoning, perhaps I was mistaken.
Meanwhile back at the farm, there will always be bigger and smaller tractors and the folks who buy them have every right to be proud of their purchases for whatever reasons they choose them for. I will always provide my opinion and my reasons and then they can choose to follow the path their pocket book, needs, preferences take them down. Popularity contests were never my specialty.
J, 3crows
 
   / B7500 vs BX2200 or BX22 #16  
All hail the Corvine Triad!!

/w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif Whoooee /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif

I seem to have poinked on a soft spot.

<font color=blue> wasn't it you</font color=blue>

Nope. I’ve never said that. However, I’m flattered that you think I give you so much thought.

What I have said is that the BX excels at mowing, especially finish mowing, although that’s not the only thing that it does well. I think that I’ve stated that if someone is looking for something that is much more than a GT, then the BX is one of the first things that s/he should look at. It’s a darn good small tractor too.

<font color=blue> seem to upset you </font color=blue>

Hardly. However, you do seem to carry your emotions on your shirt sleave.

<font color=blue> mine is as valid as yours and perhaps more so since I have at least some experience with all three units</font color=blue>

I have no difficulty with your opinions. Heck, everybody has one. The B7500 is not the only tractor that I’ve had experience with either, but it’s the only one I currently own. I actually have had experience on a range of tractors from GT up through some serious-duty AG tractors. Growing up in Midwest farm country created many opportunities for me drive many tractors. I do get a bit weary of your shrillness from time to time.

Furthermore, I think you’ve made my point, by buying two tractors. If you had gotten a B7500, you might have gotten by with one. I think the B7500 does most of what your one slightly smaller plus one slightly larger do, and only costs half as much. I’m not dismissing your decision, just making an observation. It’s amusing to me to have watched the exalted BX Grand Pooh Bah for many months, suddenly transformed into the BX/B2410 Pooh Bah. To read your opinions (and you should), you get the impression that if it isn’t a BX or a B2410, then it ain’t (expletive deleted).
Question: Does that mean if it is a BX or a B2410 that it is (expletive deleted?). /w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif (that’s a joke son, but I digress)

My point is that if you are going to buy one tractor , then you need to evaluate what you are going to use it for, and buy accordingly. This is not the mantra of “bigger is better”; it’s the mantra of “buying what you need”. I believe that’s what you claim for yourself, although your rhetoric indicates otherwise.

I’m not going to repeat the charts and graphs, as I feel I’ve already showed the difference between all three of these tractors is relatively small. When I did post them, I was trying to illustrate that the manufacturers typically “size” a tractor by horsepower, yet the (HP) numbers they use don’t necessarily tell the true story. Case in point is that the BX2200 is “rated” at 22 HP, yet it’s continuously available HP at 3000 RPM is only 17.2. The B7500 and B2410 have 21 and 22 continuously available HP respectively at 2800 RPM (by way of comparison). The observation is that the three tractors are advertised as having 22, 21, and 24 HP respectively, yet the HP curves show a different story. All that said, using horsepower as a comparison between tractors is not particularly useful. I think you would agree with that statement.

It is much more accurate to rate the power of a tractor by the displacement (as a rough measure), and by the torque as a more accurate measure. Here the three tractors line up as one would expect (30, 34, and 38 ft-lbs respectively (at PTO RPM, which isn’t the same for all three)). This is very close (relatively) to the displacement they have (0.9L, 1.0L, and 1.1L respectively). In fact, if you do the math on those numbers, it’s interesting to note that the useable torque is relatively consistent on a ft-lb/liter basis.

Bottom line is that these three tractors are each suited to slightly different work, and have different considerations in terms of maneuverability and utility.
 
   / B7500 vs BX2200 or BX22 #17  
Re: All hail the Corvine Triad!!

My response to your response---whatever------Two tractors, well, asked by another TBNer why I bought two tractors and I explained that in time my BX would go to live with my sister and her husband where it would be also available to care for my property and my parents home near their place. Yes, the BX is leaving shortly for a new home but it will remain in the family for years to come as will my new 2410. The place here in Kansas is only a temporary stop along the road. As to the cost of two tractors, it is among the least of my expenses. Hmmmmm, maybe I need a 7500 for the place in Arizona, could happen.
3crows
 
   / B7500 vs BX2200 or BX22 #18  
While those two are fighting it out *smile* ..... I'll share my observations. I bought a B7500 last September...my first tractor, with the 60"mmm, the next step up FEL, and a rear blade. I have 10 acres, 7 of them in grass, a pond, and 2 ac of woods. I will soon be buying a spreader to lime and fertilize the place. PLenty of power to drive the spreader, but the lift is the limiting factor. Probably about 600 lbs total....so that gives me 100 lbs for the cone.....and 500 lbs of fertilizer per load. haven't figured out how many loads of pelleted lime it will take to do the 7 ac.

I intend to plant trees this year, as well.....and have been looking into Post Hole Diggers. Probably need a 12in auger for this job. Here, the power may be a limiting factor, as many of the units I am looking at recommend 20 to 30 HP. The B7500 has 21 HP total, and less off the PTO. Now I know there are a few units that advertise getting by with less (Worksaver, for instance), but I am concerned at the fact that I am at the bottom end of the power range for the "sweet spot" units.

So.....I recommend that you think "creatively" about other projects you may want to do in the next few years....and investigate the requirements for the accessories you might be needing as well. The B7500 is a great piece of equipment, but it is certainly not a "do everything" machine.
 
   / B7500 vs BX2200 or BX22 #20  
Give me a call. I am in the process of selling some of my equiptment, I have a post hole digger and spreader. I am in Prince William Co, VA.

In addition, I am listing my tractor for sale (L3410 HST 4WD). If you want to step up, perhaps we could work out a good deal for both of us.
 

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