Backhoe for Deere 3033r

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WinterDeere

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John Deere 3033R, 855 MFWD, 757 ZTrak; IH Cub Cadet 123
I've got a few projects piled up, where a backhoe would be real handy. When I bought my tractor, I skipped the $15k added cost of the backhoe, thinking I'd not get enough use out of it to make it worth the expense and storing the thing. That might still be the case, but at least in the near-term, I have several jobs that are going to need one.

I know I could just rent a mini-ex, but my schedule is unpredicatable and very busy these days, such that nearly every project seems to get interrupted mid-stream anymore. My days of a predictable schedule, where I could start a job and see it through in one continuous string of evenings or weekends, seem to be gone for now. So, I need the flexibility to just have the thing here for weeks/months, so I can jump on the job when I get free time, and let it sit when that time gets interrupted with a hot business project.

Deere sells the 385A backhoe for my 3033r, which looks like a great implement with full subframe... but it's $15k. Seems like an awful lot to spend for a few "now" projects, and then maybe some future use many years from now, but not any regular need. I was really thinking I should be shopping the $5k second-hand market.

I'd guess that brings us to 3-point backhoes, which I've always heard are trouble, that they break tractors, etc. There's some truth in nearly every stereotype, but also many are over-blown or exaggerated. Moreover, factors such as usage frequency and carefulness or carelessness of the operator may be big determinants on the advisability of this.

What have you folks found and experienced, here?
 
   / Backhoe for Deere 3033r
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Really? No backhoe owners/buyers, here?
 
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First off if you buy a JD backhoe it is a 3 point backhoe so to speak, sort of, it just goes on a subframe. I’ve never owned a true 3 point backhoe and don’t know if they are really a problem or not.
 
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Why not get a subframe kit and then get a suitable 3 point hoe (off the 5k market) to mount to it?
 
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Why not get a subframe kit and then get a suitable 3 point hoe (off the 5k market) to mount to it?
That seems like a good option. I guess I have some learning to do, never even looked at how these things attach, compatibility, etc.
 
   / Backhoe for Deere 3033r #6  
I've had two Woods backhoes. First was a 3PH BH7500 on a JD770. I thrashed around on my more than I liked, but never had any issues with it or the tractor. A few years back I bought a 3039R (cab) and I ended up finding a dealer leftover Woods BH80X with the subframe & 4PT mount. Because I have a cab i couldn't go with the 385 so I went with the woods because it was the only one that had a hydraulic thumb option. I got one of the last 2 still on New England dealer lots, only 15 miles from the house. Downside is that Kubota orange kinda clashes with JD green. The 4PT is an easier hook up, but the lift arms are slightly in the way. Also, the sub-frame may / will interfere with front & mid PTO on my tractor series.
 
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I have the #375 hoe on my 3720. The plates it mounts to that are bolted to the sides of the trans case are massive, and the hoe can really jostle the tractor around so they need to be take and distribute the force. The rear case and tabs where a '3PH' backhoe connect are all cast aluminum on the 3-series, I can't imagine they'd hold up well.

Look in JDParts for the mounts for your 33R to see what I'm talking about.
 
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Really? No backhoe owners/buyers, here?
I'm a tractor backhoe owner, but I haven't looked at tractor mounted backhoes for years and don't know what's currently available.
Personally I would want a subframe mounted.
 
   / Backhoe for Deere 3033r #9  
Is your ground soft without rocks as this will influence the stresses placed on your tractor if you go with a backhoe for it even if it is sub mounted?

What projects do you have in mind?

My backhoe for my TC33D is a sub mount, you really need to be careful using it. 25 years ago there were not the options there are today. For as much use as I have gotten out of my sub mounted backhoe if I was going to purchase my tractor today I would spend more money but I would look at a used mini excavator rather than buying the sub mount for the tractor.

Buying a mini excavator is definitely going to be more money and for some that is just not an option, but the versatility, increased power, increased reach you get in my opinion is worth the cost.
 
   / Backhoe for Deere 3033r #10  
I have the #375 hoe on my 3720. The plates it mounts to that are bolted to the sides of the trans case are massive, and the hoe can really jostle the tractor around so they need to be take and distribute the force. The rear case and tabs where a '3PH' backhoe connect are all cast aluminum on the 3-series, I can't imagine they'd hold up well.

Look in JDParts for the mounts for your 33R to see what I'm talking about.
Not really that expensive either.😲

 
 

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