Backhoe Backhoe won't move

[EddieWalker]

Doesn't the transmission use the same hydraulic oil as the rest of your hydraulics? Is there oil in your large hydraulic tank sitting on the outside of your frame, between the front and rear tires that you climb onto to get into the tractor? Fuel tank is usually on the opposite side.

 

[Billrog]

That's the correct amount for the transmission Approx. 4 gal. when drained for refill. The rear diff. is a different story it holds a lot more. On these Hoes the hydraulics are separate.

 

[kwbretired]

Well I've used the backhoe all day so far and it has not acted up bit. Maybe it just needed to be run to loosen things back up. I've dug a hoe to set a 500 gal septic in and taken down several trees and plied them up. I don't know what changed but I'm liking it. Thanks for all the help, I'll holler again if it starts acting up again.

 

[Billrog]

I'm elated for you Kenny :thumbsup:

 

[Tractorboy88]

Hows that hoe running?

 

[kwbretired]

Running great, ran about a tank and half of fuel through it digging a 10' * 25' * 8' deep pit for a field drain and a 5' * 8' * 6' deep hole for a septic tank. Dumped 3 loads of gravel then covered with dirt. I'm a little slow with it, has been a while since I used it. But now that I'm retired that won't be an issue anymore. It looks kie lack of use was the problem and the transmission fluid and filter needed changing. Next time I go up ther to the property I will be changing the hydraulic fluid and filter.

 

[Zardiw]

Kenny first buy a new trans hydraulic filter .....

Just got a 2006 580SM and am changing all the fluids/filters.

Really stuck on the transmission filter.......that sucker is way up in there where you really can't get to it w/o removing a BUNCH of stuff.....

Any suggestions?

z

 

[Zardiw]

Yes. The screen is behind the cover plate with 2 bolts, next to the drain plug.....And it doesn't hurt to check it.....only takes a few minutes. If that gets clogged and collapses, say hello to a new $10K Tranny.....lol....z

 

[Billrog]

Z it's a bear cat to get at and change at least you found it I had my machine a year before I even found it.

 

[Zardiw]

I've seen some effed up design/engineering in my time.....but this one takes the cake....wtf were they thinking???....High on drugs?

The meter on this is 2304 hrs.....So maybe I can live without changing it?? ...

I'm assuming you have to do it from the front?.......Even if I get it unscrewed I don't see how to even get it out of there.....or put the new one in.........lol

Thanks for any help.........

z

 

[Billrog]

I did it from the front my machine now has over 7000 hrs. and that filter I only changed once.

 

[Zardiw]

Gotter Done!!!.........Wasn't as hard as I imagined.......lol......Here's a thread on it:

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/case-ih/395991-case-580-580m-transmission-filter.html

z

 

[caserob]

Hello all, lots of great info here. I am backyard warrior with Case Super K working on my property on remote island - this means if I don't fix it I can't use it. My backhoe was sitting for half year and when I resumed work this spring, it started doing pretty much same thing as this thread is about. I have speed shifter on right console , forward reverse on steering wheel column , push button for clutch disconnect works fine. So far I've replaced two big filters which I believe one is hydraulics (filter in between rear wheels) and transmission (filter on transmission more forward). What happens is I can start machine in the morning and it runs. I stop for lunch for 20 min. and it would not move. To make it move I found that when I shift into 4wd it would move so I "drag" it for 20 meters and flip it back into 2wd and it would run rest of the day. Morning next day it would not move..... I'd drag it on 4wd for a bit and it runs again no problem. I just worry that it will give up one day completely on wrong side of my property where it will be harder for me to fix it. I will check all above recommended steps, feels like there is air somewhere maybe? Oil reservoir is full , when it moves it moves strong and fast so I do not suspect problem is with torque converter. Maybe fluid is old, but why it runs On/Off like that? Also dealer told me that tranny and hydraulics use same oil just two different circuits, but I have no problem at all with hydraulics - all works great. Also oil is very clean. Any thoughts? I will check all I found in this thread, I just wanted to be more prepared when I go back to my property so I can troubleshoot this. Thank you for any help. Rob

 

[Zardiw]

You might check the fluid levels in your rear axle.....and the 2 wheels......And also the transmission oil level....via the hidden dipstick......lol...z

 

[caserob]

You might check the fluid levels in your rear axle.....and the 2 wheels......And also the transmission oil level....via the hidden dipstick......lol...z

Oh wow! Thanks for help man, I will for sure try that

 

[caserob]

Zardiw , that hidden dipstick...- it isn't the one behind seat ,right? I believe that is rear axle fluid which is OK, but I can't find trans dipstick. Internets say that it is somewhere around starter, but there is non on my hoe. Also I am positive that level will be low since I changed filter , where do I add transmission fluid? Operators manual is on its way so that may help me lots. Thanks for help - R

 

[Zardiw]

The dip stick is on the driver's side. Look towards the back....behind the rear panel once you have the hood open.

You'll need a long funnel to add fluid......

On the rear axle you have to take out the plug.....I think it's on the passenger side and about halfway up the axle housing....at the back of the axle.....you should fill it until it starts coming out. It uses a 1/2 inch socket drive........might need a cheater on it.

To check all the wheels.......get em off the ground and rotate em so the line that says 'Fill Level' is horizontal. Again, fill until it starts coming out.

Important: If you drain and change the hydraulic fluid in the rear axle.....you need to add a bottle of special additive.....it's so the brakes work.

z