Bad info in 1538 operators manual.

[oldpilgrim]

I wasn't a ditty bopper. I wasn't that crazy. I heard you guys shouting out the dits and dahs every night while at Ft Devens.

JerryK, have you heard this one? It's pretty new and pretty good.

It is officially said that the first American killed in VN, was an ASA guy. SP4 Davis. Many, many ASA (RR) guys never came home.

Officially ASA was not in Vietnam, right Jerry?

When anyone went there, the ASA patch was removed and a "Radio Research" patch was substituted. There were several RR groups there. We were never in many many places around the world.

When I was at Ft Devens in training, the local town asked for a contingent of soldiers to march in the July 4th parade. Before we left the post, we had to tear off our ASA patches. Top secret !

However, when we graduated from our 6 months of training, our instructors read us a Pravda newspaper article congratulating the graduates of my class, everyone of us by name. Real secret, we were.

 

[Turbys_1700]

I will have to check my New Holland owner's manual to see what it calls for in the front axle. I can tell you that the weight specs for my tractor are all over the place. The owner's manual states 6600#, one online spec states 5000#, and another online spec from New Holland is 4400#. If the 5000# is correct with loaded rears I'm pushing 6000# and with FEL I would be over 7000#. I guessed I need to weigh it to be certain. At least New Holland didn't paint the belts and hoses. It is made in India.

 

[JerryK]

Good song... Our 509th Radio Research Group and our 224th Aviation Battalion were both headquartered in Davis Station [ named after SP4 Davis ] at the main airbase in Saigon. Later, after I left, they moved them out to Long Than North to disperse stuff out of Saigon. We had units spread out all over the place incountry or supposed to be incountry .....

 

[Midniteoyl]

LOL I think we found a puddle pirate amongst us. Any swabbies around?

Weeeelll.. Actually was both. Didnt see much advancement in this thing



So went for something a little bigger





And yes, it was nice to have constant coffee that you didnt have to walk on the bulkheads to keep from spilling

 

[JerryK]

[ Wonder if she goes forward or backwards when she is under full battery power and firing a belt of 50 cal.. ?? ]

 

[Navasot]

that's what was and is again in mine. You have no problem with the rear end being lubed by hydro oil? All the hst's do it that way.

there is no problem using hydro fluid.

Right! Hyd/trans fluid is in just about every tractors drivetrain now

 

[Midniteoyl]

[ Wonder if she goes forward or backwards when she is under full battery power and firing a belt of 50 cal.. ?? ]

Reverse IS firing the .50cal

 

[DavesTractor]

Dickfoster....less caffeine! Man you can get intense about things.

But you are right about some manuals calling for two different types of fluids, that ought to be fixed. Over the years we have seen that on occasion, but a call to MUSA clarifies that we go with hytrans. Many other compact tractors use it as well. It's proper. I bet gear oil would be fine also, but I think we are better off going with the OEM recommendation and sticking with hytrans.

I know the topic of the proper brand and type of fluid can be a passionate debate. I'm not getting into that, because I lack knowledge in that field. We use what the OEM specs out. Not saying there is not some better synthetic super oil...there probably is. We have filled literally thousands of Mahindra compact tractor front axles. Always with hytrans. Big tanks, hose reel, glug, glug, glug. A little over a gallon in your rig I believe.

Pilgrim, and the rest of you men that served, bless you. it is appreciated.

 

[dickfoster]

Dickfoster....less caffeine! Man you can get intense about things.

But you are right about some manuals calling for two different types of fluids, that ought to be fixed. Over the years we have seen that on occasion, but a call to MUSA clarifies that we go with hytrans. Many other compact tractors use it as well. It's proper. I bet gear oil would be fine also, but I think we are better off going with the OEM recommendation and sticking with hytrans.

I know the topic of the proper brand and type of fluid can be a passionate debate. I'm not getting into that, because I lack knowledge in that field. We use what the OEM specs out. Not saying there is not some better synthetic super oil...there probably is. We have filled literally thousands of Mahindra compact tractor front axles. Always with hytrans. Big tanks, hose reel, glug, glug, glug. A little over a gallon in your rig I believe.

Pilgrim, and the rest of you men that served, bless you. it is appreciated.

Hi Dave, Yeah I checked with Beeler and they said that Mahindra had a history of being inconsistant on the front axle lube and that I could basically use whichever I decided to use. Knowing what I do about gear boxes from being a rock crawler and having occasion to work on a lot of diffs and gear boxes I'll be using a high quality synthetic gear lube in mine. Probably 75W90 with a little Redline Shockproof mixed in. Shock proof is a very sticky thick and gooey lube intended for gears that see some heavy loading. It coats the gears and bearings and provides a good wear barrier. I like it because I run hi pinion boxes and want something that will stay up in those difficult to lube high pinion bearings. Because it clings so well, you would NOT want to use this stuff in any box that has a pump, cooler or filter as it may tend to clog up the works.

The reason I'm so intense about this is because there is NO excuse for this sort of thing and it can cost customers time and money.

In another thread I'll be going over all the aggravation I went though just changing the fuel filters and so try to save others some of the hassle and expense they would encounter relying on what little erroneous info Mahindra provides in the so called documention they put out.

I'm getting so aggravated with Mahindra that I've actually considered trading this turd in on something with better after sales support. That's a shame because it's like a football team that advances the ball to the ninety yard line on the first down, then they crap the bed, go to sleep and lose the game.

That said, after looking at a New Holland yesterday, I found the Mahindra to be superior, better built and heavier duty in almost all respects but the service access for the NH was light years ahead of my Mahindra. You can probably change both the engine oil and fuel filters without even lifting the hood on the New Holland as there was easy and free access to both. Getting to either on the Mahindra is almost impossible. Apparently the dealer techs are having trouble getting decent service info from Mahindra too so I don't think it's just me.

 

[DavesTractor]

Hi Dave, Yeah I checked with Beeler and they said that Mahindra had a history of being inconsistant on the front axle lube and that I could basically use whichever I decided to use. Knowing what I do about gear boxes from being a rock crawler and having occasion to work on a lot of diffs and gear boxes I'll be using a high quality synthetic gear lube in mine. Probably 75W90 with a little Redline Shockproof mixed in. Shock proof is a very sticky thick and gooey lube intended for gears that see some heavy loading. It coats the gears and bearings and provides a good wear barrier. I like it because I run hi pinion boxes and want something that will stay up in those difficult to lube high pinion bearings. Because it clings so well, you would NOT want to use this stuff in any box that has a pump, cooler or filter as it may tend to clog up the works.

The reason I'm so intense about this is because there is NO excuse for this sort of thing and it can cost customers time and money.

In another thread I'll be going over all the aggravation I went though just changing the fuel filters and so try to save others some of the hassle and expense they would encounter relying on what little erroneous info Mahindra provides in the so called documention they put out.

I'm getting so aggravated with Mahindra that I've actually considered trading this turd in on something with better after sales support. That's a shame because it's like a football team that advances the ball to the ninety yard line on the first down, then they crap the bed, go to sleep and lose the game.

That said, after looking at a New Holland yesterday, I found the Mahindra to be superior, better built and heavier duty in almost all respects but the service access for the NH was light years ahead of my Mahindra. You can probably change both the engine oil and fuel filters without even lifting the hood on the New Holland as there was easy and free access to both. Getting to either on the Mahindra is almost impossible. Apparently the dealer techs are having trouble getting decent service info from Mahindra too so I don't think it's just me.

Would you suggest Redline shockproof in the portals on my Mog? Or a combo of synthetic gear lube and shockproof? I need to fix a front seal and swap out the fluids, and I don't mind paying the price for top quality fluids. As for the fluids in the front axles of Mahindra compact tractors, I've not seen a fluid related axle failure on a compact Mahindra, except of course for no fluid....that'll do it. So in a way, you are fixing a problem that does not exist. Having said that, I have no problem using fluids that are over the top good, even if not needed. If you can afford it, why not?

As for Mahindras contradiction in the manuals, I agree, they need to fix those sort of things. But had you gone with either fluid, it would have worked.

As for tight filters and poorly placed service points, it is the nature of the beast when you use one engine in many applications. A filter that is out of the way with your engine on a 3550 might be square up against a loader bracket on a smaller tractor, etc. It would be nice if they could adapt and make things easier, but honestly my techs never complain about tight filters or hard to reach filters. They just get it done with little fanfare. But they do have a variety of different types of oil filter tools. What works great on one is useless on another model.

Try a new $60k Ram diesel. You have little choice but to pull the oil filter and make a big mess or remove the intake air box to gain access. And you have to reach the filter through the wheel well opening. Pretty dumb. And the rear fuel filter? Square over the rear diff/pinion area. Really? Yep. So you learn to drain with a hose and use a certain tool.

Such is life, and it's best not to get too worked up about the little stuff. And any problem that provides an excuse to buy a new tool is a good thing.