Baling with Hst?

[SPYDERLK]

Any PTO work is best done by hydro's because of the ability to adjust to the work. The rocking from square balers has never been a problem for hydro's although I could see where someone could use it to slander the hydro's ability.

We had a fellow who had some hay down and the ford 5000 broke and rain was coming. The only other tractor that was available was the BX 24 that was towing the wagons so that is what they baled the last two loads with!

I too have baled with a BX. Works fine, but you wont get many hrs baling before it breaks. On mine it was the cradle bearing.
larry

 

[dex3361]

I too have baled with a BX. Works fine, but you wont get many hrs baling before it breaks. On mine it was the cradle bearing.
larry

If I am not mistaken your BX is a BX1500 with 10HP at the PTO. Is this the BX tractor you baled with? I thought I had read that you had a cradle bearing go bad in your BX1500 a while back.

 

[SPYDERLK]

If I am not mistaken your BX is a BX1500 with 10HP at the PTO. Is this the BX tractor you baled with? I thought I had read that you had a cradle bearing go bad in your BX1500 a while back.

Yes. However the PTO was not the issue. It was the prevalent repetitive large change in the force required at the wheels.
larry

 

[art]

Ouch! I didn't say it was right!

 

[SPYDERLK]

Ouch! I didn't say it was right!

Yeah, bigger would be better, but chances are you would just make bigger rows and go faster. The problem of continous surge pulsing in the hyd trans will always be an issue. Gear trans have a much larger safety factor built in as pure strength, whereas hyd falls back to rely on a quick acting relief valve set closer to the harm point.
larry

 

[ctlguy]

I have not seen any issues on the topic of cut hydro's and small square balers myself if matched appropriatly to the hp and chassis need. There is a specific issue regarding large square balers and hydro based trasnmissions for the plunger cycle reason but those machines have a quite a bit more inertia during that process than the small and very light by comparison flywheel on a small baller. IMO

 

[art]

I can't say with all the tractors that we have sold that we have ever had an issue with a hydro from baling hay.
Most owners rave about them.

We don't have any on the large square balers that I know of but when working with them at the normal speeds of baling the plunger barely effects the tractor compared to just sitting large or small square.

 

[slowzuki]

We bale with the L5030HSTC that weighs in at 6500 lb all dressed, it only really rocks the tractor when parked and no hay is feeding. We also use our 100 hp MF 5455, weighs in at almost 12,000 lb all dressed, when parked with no hay, it feels to be the same amount of rocking.

I was worried about it when we first started but like I said we've got about 30,000 bales / 300 hours+ of square baling on it trouble free. The hst clutch is great for starting the load up nice and gently too.

 

[slowzuki]

From 7 years ago.

 

[dex3361]

Yes. However the PTO was not the issue. It was the prevalent repetitive large change in the force required at the wheels.
larry

I would like to hear the story about this and yes I imagine you could damage a BX1500 with a baler just so much mass back a forth. Well I guess I can scratch the BX baler combo thing off my list of BX tasks.