Bar on loader

[Deleted member 367166]

Anybody know what this bar is for or what it's called? I can't find it on the parts diagram. Seems like the loader won't lift as high since this got bent.

 

[BlueKnife]

Don't know what it's called but what it's for is to keep the brackets on each side even with each other when there isn't an implement attached. With it bent like that it's pulling the bottom of the brackets in towards each other, thereby putting excessive side load on the bushings and possibly causing the brackets to rub the arms. It needs to be fixed. Best way to do that is to replace it with a piece of tube welded in place. I don't know why JD used those pin in place bars, but it was a poor design. I've fixed a couple of them like that.

 

[nyone]

That looks like a prety poor design.

 

[WranglerX]

Don't know what it's called but what it's for is to keep the brackets on each side even with each other when there isn't an implement attached. With it bent like that it's pulling the bottom of the brackets in towards each other, thereby putting excessive side load on the bushings and possibly causing the brackets to rub the arms. It needs to be fixed. Best way to do that is to replace it with a piece of tube welded in place. I don't know why JD used those pin in place bars, but it was a poor design. I've fixed a couple of them like that.

You mean that itty bitty steel bar can do what large diameter steel tube a few inches behind it can't do?.... Maybe it only stabilizes bottom corner of attachment mount points so the bucket "pins" actually lineup....

As for lift problem, that bar has little or nothing to do with lift geometry of hydraulics and FEL arms....

 

[Deleted member 367166]

Don't know what it's called but what it's for is to keep the brackets on each side even with each other when there isn't an implement attached. With it bent like that it's pulling the bottom of the brackets in towards each other, thereby putting excessive side load on the bushings and possibly causing the brackets to rub the arms. It needs to be fixed. Best way to do that is to replace it with a piece of tube welded in place. I don't know why JD used those pin in place bars, but it was a poor design. I've fixed a couple of them like that.

How do you get it out?

 

[BlueKnife]

You mean that itty bitty steel bar can do what large diameter steel tube a few inches behind it can't do?.... Maybe it only stabilizes bottom corner of attachment mount points so the bucket "pins" actually lineup....

As for lift problem, that bar has little or nothing to do with lift geometry of hydraulics and FEL arms....

Its supposed to, but often doesn't due to the poor design. The steel tube behind it is part of the arms. The little bar is pinned to the brackets. The purpose is similar. That large tube keeps the arms rigidly connected and in line with each other. The little bar is supposed to keep the two brackets lined up with each other when there isn't an attachment on the loader.

 

[Deleted member 367166]

How do you get it out?

OK, wait a minute. I broke one of those side lifters with a mechanical grapple and had to take it off. I think if I did that, that bar would come out pretty easy. Then maybe I could put it in a vise and straighten it out.

 

[BlueKnife]

How do you get it out?

If it's being replaced with the same part you have to take the brackets off of the arms and then after removing the pins that hold it together the brackets just slide off that bar. If it's being replaced with tube, as I suggested, it can just be cut out.

 

[BlueKnife]

OK, wait a minute. I broke one of those side lifters with a mechanical grapple and had to take it off. I think if I did that, that bar would come out pretty easy. Then maybe I could put it in a vise and straighten it out.

That would work temporarily. Bending it back weakens an already poorly designed and sized part.

 

[scootr]

I would fix that in 1 minute with a BFH or if you prefer a large something to pry it back down.
Plain and simply it got bent up, bend it back down.