Bar vs Turf

JWKnopp · May 15, 2005

Hi all, thanks for being here.
Very valuable in deciding on the Kubota.
We are going to purchase a BX23 and a 60" Landspride RFM.

Have 10 acres ( 3 yard & weeds/7 woods plus 200" asphalt driveway.

One use will be snow removal. Which tire type would be the best versatile, yet effective choice, Bar or Turf. /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Tom_H · May 15, 2005

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blackmajicwoman · May 16, 2005

From my experience this past winter, I changed from turfs (w/ 50# bolt-on tire weights) to AGs (loaded w/ fluid). My traction increased greatly. No slippaged at all. Excellent sterring capability too, especially when I needed to use the FWD.

About 3 weeks ago, I installed a complete dry well system in my yard. In a "wet" area of the yard, I thought I was going to be stuck, but w/ the AG tires, I came out no problem. If the turfs were on, forget it, I would have had to get the P/U out of the garage! The downside to the bars is that I left a lot of ruts in the grass from the tires. Now that my spring digging projects are over, I have swapped over to the turfs. I really want to put on a set of R4 industrial tires to get the best of both worlds, but they are a little out of my price range. I hope this helps you out.

Tom_H · May 16, 2005

I would point out here that blackmajicwoman has these bar tires liquid filled. The damage indicated to the turf would not normally occur with pneumatically filled bar tires.

Merlin1 · May 17, 2005

By all means the bar (R-4 industrial) are the best compromise in my opinion. I've had Ag's, (tore up the yard something awful and left ruts) and Turf, ( great on the yard but very poor traction even in wet grass let alone snow/mud). The R-4's do not rut hardly at all and almost no damage to grass unless making tight turns in FWD and great traction although I suspect they will load up easy in soft mud.

LBrown59 · May 30, 2005

( From my experience this past winter, I changed from turfs (w/ 50# bolt-on tire weights) to AGs (loaded w/ fluid). My traction increased greatly. No slippaged at all. Excellent sterring capability too, especially when I needed to use the FWD.

About 3 weeks ago, I installed a complete dry well system in my yard. In a "wet" area of the yard, I thought I was going to be stuck, but w/ the AG tires, I came out no problem. If the turfs were on, forget it, I would have had to get the P/U out of the garage! The downside to the bars is that I left a lot of ruts in the grass from the tires. Now that my spring digging projects are over, I have swapped over to the turfs. I really want to put on a set of R4 industrial tires to get the best of both worlds. )
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 But they also offer the worst of both worlds.

LBrown59 · May 30, 2005

( By all means the bar (R-4 industrial) are the best compromise in my opinion. I've had Ag's, (tore up the yard something awful and left ruts) and Turf, ( great on the yard but very poor traction even in wet grass let alone snow/mud). The R-4's do not rut hardly at all and almost no damage to grass unless making tight turns in FWD and great traction although
 I suspect they will load up easy in soft mud. )
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 R-4's plus mud equals Racing Slicks.