Barns and shop layouts

[rdln]

What's that guy doing on the roof barefoot?

 

[WVBill]

Thanks, golfgar. I started with a set of plans from 84 lumber for a 24' x 32' pole building. Basically, I split the plans down the middle and separated them by the 16' wide middle section which I built taller to accomodate the motor home. I could have kept the single roofline but didn't like "the look" so I bumped the middle roof up.

rdln - That's what I asked him - "What are you doing up there barefoot!!?". He said he was more comfortable/secure that way. The workers are my Father-in law, three of my wife's uncles (one barefoot). We had the annual family reunion at our place and built the barn.

 

[Pks]

Can anyone give me a model number and supplier name for the drains they used in their barn floor? I am having trouble finding exactly what I am looking for: 9x9 metal grate with a strainer that hooks up to PCV pipe. Bayrat and rbargeron
mentioned something like this. So far, all I have found is 100% plastic or made for highways/airports.

 

[rbargeron]

Hi Peter - my floor drains came from a concrete supplies place (they cater to masonry contractors) - no name on them.

They are cast iron and pretty thin - I've broken both grates - looking for something a little stronger myself - will probably make them from plate with holes drilled. I find they don't need much inlet (hole) area. Hope this helps.

 

[rdln]

I was at J.C. Cornillie's last night and thinking of your question, asked the lady about that and she replied nothing that she knows of. Her only answer was the same as I was thinking, is a concrete crock buried under your slab with hole cut through side by you and pvc cemented in. Just like AndyR's project

Or how about a long drain using metal grate available at a lot of steel supply places, there you need to form your own catch basin and pipe in place before pouring.

 

[DavidInNH]

You might want to check code in your area. I'm building a new shop and my builder told me that he can no longer install a floor drain. Seems that one too many yoyo poured oil down one and they changed the laws./w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif All they can do now is grade the slab towards the doors.

-david

 

[Pks]

Thanks for the replies.

About sloping the floors instead of installing a drain; ain't that gonna let the oil out the door anyway?

I am waiting for my state's Residential Code book now. But from what I have learned, it is OK to do as long as I don't pour oil into the drain. Of course, if I did that, I'd spoil my own drinking water supply. I'll wait until I see the code book.

 

[Pks]

Speaking of floors: How many concrete mixers would it take to pour a 30ft x 48ft x 4 inch slab? I figure the floor is about 17.7 cubic yards (30x48x.3333/27). I'll add the ratwall calculations once I get the easy part understood.

How heavy is one of those mixers with a full load? I have heard numbers as high as 36 tons (72,000 pounds).

Will a residential black top driveway handle one of these mixers at full load (with all 5 axles lowered etc.)?

 

[RobS]

It'll depend a lot on the mixer but here's what is typically used around here...

Model Name Great Lakes Tri-Drive 5-axle
Model Number 81010.5-185-0-P2
Description 5-axle, eight-wheel drive 10.5 yard mixer with 185" wheelbase, with pusher axle
States IN, MI, NY, WI

No weight listed, I've heard 60,000 pounds. It will also depend on local frost laws and other road conditions /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

 

[mikim]

<font color=blue>30x48x.3333/27</font color=blue>
whew! need a calculator for that - if ya do 30 x 48 /81 you can almost do it in your head - 'course it only works for 4" slabs
mike