batteries

/ batteries #21  
A lot of batteries are rated for "free replacement" for 12 months only, then "prorated" after that. Rarely are they rated for free replacement for the entire warranty period.
 
/ batteries #22  
I just had a napa battery that was 48mo into a 72mo warranty.. as you said.. 12mo free.. pro-rated after that. out of a 100$ battery I got about 33$ off on the new one.. beats a slap in the face I guess...

soundguy
 
/ batteries #23  
I think that is correct. You should get a new battery, but you would only have whats left of the warranty on the first battery.

When I had my automotive business the battery warranty always started from the day/month of purchase. This included adjusted batteries--warranty began fresh each time. How long the adjusted battery lasted had no relationship to the new replacement battery. It always amazes me how some managers quibble over pennies and wind up losing dollars in customer satisfaction. Mike.
 
/ batteries #24  
Consider that if you got a full, free replacement at 4 years, 11 months, some people would intentionally damage the battery so that they could get a free new one, to be repeated in another 4 years, 11 months....

I'm willing to pay for a new battery every 5 years or so (but they usually last longer for me in the tractors). What I don't like is the cheap (but expensive) motorcycle/ATV batteries where you can't get anything better than a 1 year prorated warranty. I also hate the mc/atv designs where you have to disconnect and pull the battery out to check the fluid level.

Ken
 
/ batteries #25  
wish I could get 5ys on a battery... too much josteling around i guess.. I'm actually happy to get 3...

soundguy
 
/ batteries #26  
wish I could get 5ys on a battery... too much josteling around i guess.. I'm actually happy to get 3...

In 1999, the original battery in my Kubota M4700 died, just under a year after I bought it. Dealer put in a cheap battery. I went to the local autoparts store and bought the best diesel pickup battery they had. It was still working fine when I traded the tractor last year.

This year, I replaced the original battery in my B21 TLB (about eight years old). I still have the original battery in my B2710 (bought in 2000).
 
/ batteries #27  
I have returned a couple of the 3-years warranty batteries to WM and have never been questioned about it. Now, I did have to pay the core charge which was a pittance... I recently bought 4 12-volts batteries w/3 years warranty...
 
/ batteries #28  
The premium Walmart batteries have a 3 year replacement guarantee and I believe they are prorated for the next two years but I am not sure of that. When I bring in a bad one less than 3 years old, they ring up one receipt for the full price and then deduct the full price so it comes out to zero and then they give me another receipt with no price but just the date I get the new battery. You use this receipt the next time you replace the battery. The new battery is under replacement warranty for 3 years from that date and everytime I get a new one under warranty the warranty starts over again.

The best battery I ever had was a Japanese one that was in my Yanmar tractor when I got it. It had special cell covers that were large enough for a fitting to fit into that lit a light on your dashboard when the electrolyte was low. I could not find a replacement that could use that hookup. The man I bought the tractor from said he had it 5 years and I had it 7 years before the battery went bad. Then I bought a Walmart premium for it. Now I have to just figure out how to get the Walmart battery to go bad in less than 3 years so I can get another free replacement. :rolleyes:
 
/ batteries #29  
We buy our batteries from Bob over at Quality Tire on Creamery Road. Reasonably priced and calls my wife "young lady" which she secretly enjoys...
Mike
 
/ batteries #30  
I've had great service from Deka batteries too. Just replaced the one in my Ford 2000 early this spring, it was 9 years old. I also use that tractor to jump start my little BN Farmall w/magneto, for it's bi-weekly chore of running the hammermill, to grind hay for my old mare.

Another great battery was bought at Batteries Plus. Got 9 years out of that one too. Not sure how long it really lasted, as I sold the truck it was in that year. I believe they sold Douglas batteries at the time. I'm not sure if they still carry them or not.

Here is the link to Batteries Plus, if anyone cares to see if they have a store in their local... Batteries Plus battery store - All your battery needs for Laptop, camera, cell phone, camcorder, SLA, batteries recycling and much more
 
/ batteries #31  
We buy our batteries from Bob over at Quality Tire on Creamery Road. Reasonably priced and calls my wife "young lady" which she secretly enjoys...
Mike

Ah! Flattery works as a sales pitch ;-)
 
/ batteries #32  
In my experience, battery life is extended for 2 reasons:
1. Charging voltage of the tractor generator or alternator. If it charges at 14.8 volts, you will have shorter life. I have actually changed regulators (same brand, same model) and found that one had a higher steady charging voltage than the other. 13.8v is just about perfect for a vehicle, but chances are, your tractor will be more like 14.2v. Belarus used to have a summer/winter switch, since temperature influences how much voltage you want your battery to be charged back with. I have a menagerie of tractors, and the old Case needed to be switched off, since the "one wire" car alternator put out 15volts constantly! Fine for replenishing the starting charge, but after a few minutes, I just turned the key off, to prevent boiling out the electrolyte, since the fuel shutoff was manual anyway.

2. Maintenance voltage. If you use your tractor regularly, and it doesn't charge too high, this is no problem. For occasional users, a maintainer of some kind is needed, since wet batteries self discharge. This keeps the plates from being sulfated, which happens easier in a reduced state of charge. Heavy duty batteries, like golf cart (Trojan, Deka) or Deka 12v batteries have heavier plates that can take more, put out more, and seem to suffer from less sulfation. (2 6v golf car batteries in series would make a great battery for any tractor, but they won't usually fit). A small cheap charger will work, though, if you put a timer on it, an hour every 24, for example.

Solar charging controllers that are programmable make fantastic maintenance chargers, since you can set the exact voltage you want the battery to sit at when the sun comes out. A $50 panel of 5-15 watts plus a programmable controller set to 12.9 volts float voltage, 13.8v bulk absorbtion would give you years and years of life whether or not you ever started the tractor except for the summer. The small, cheap solar controllers (around 25-30 dollars at someplace like Harbor Freight) will generally have a cutoff voltage of at least 13.8v, but will work with a small solar cell somewhat shaded, to reduce the amount of charging.

12.7v at rest, medium temperature, one hour after charger has been disconnected, or engine shut off, is 100% charged. Alternators will 100% charge a battery, but do it by slightly overcharging, and if your maintenance charger is on 24hrs a day at a similar, high voltage (14.2v), you will lose water and have to replace it. Keeping that in mind, then, you can use almost any small trickle charger, knowing that you will have to top it off more often.
 

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