Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[airbiscuit]

People are threatened and resistant to change. It has always been thus:

Quote from the US Congressional Record in 1875:

The dangers are obvious. Stores of gasoline in the hands of people interested primarily in profit would constitute a fire and explosive hazard of the first rank.
Horseless carriages propelled by gasoline might attain speeds of 14 or even 20 miles per hour. The menace to our people of vehicles of this type hurtling through our streets and along our roads and poisoning the atmosphere would call for prompt legislative action even if the military and economic implications were not so overwhelming…
The cost of producing gasoline is far beyond the financial capacity of private industry…
In addition the development of this new power may displace the use of horses, which would wreck our agriculture.

 

[Industrial Toys]

And the Buggy Whips might find their way into the nations bedrooms, having no further use in transportation.!

 

[Egon]

People are threatened and resistant to change. It has always been thus:

Quote from the US Congressional Record in 1875:

The dangers are obvious. Stores of gasoline in the hands of people interested primarily in profit would constitute a fire and explosive hazard of the first rank.
Horseless carriages propelled by gasoline might attain speeds of 14 or even 20 miles per hour. The menace to our people of vehicles of this type hurtling through our streets and along our roads and poisoning the atmosphere would call for prompt legislative action even if the military and economic implications were not so overwhelming…
The cost of producing gasoline is far beyond the financial capacity of private industry…
In addition the development of this new power may displace the use of horses, which would wreck our agriculture.

As with almost anything new change is abhorred but inevitable!

 

[DarkBlack]

Sorry, but its not new
Electric cars have been around longer than gasoline power cars

 

[Egon]

Sorry, but its not new
Electric cars have been around longer than gasoline power cars

For sure; pardon my slip.

 

[buickanddeere]

Here in Norway the market share of 100% electric cars are over 40% in 2019, so electric cars do work like a charm, even in very hard winter conditions.

Do you know why electric vehicles sell in Norway ? Checkout the taxes added to the IC vehicle and the tax payer funded subsidies paid on EV痴.
Nothing to do with being practical . It has all to do with what a Resident of Norway can afford on their after tax income .

 

[buickanddeere]

To keep the battery power tool thread more focused on hand tools this thread can be for cars, trucks, tractors, etc that are here today and new ones of the future.

Clearly Europe is ahead of the USA in battery based vehicles and for several reasons. McDonald's putting in car charging stations in 100% of their stores countries like Norway and the Netherlands helped me see this is no small thing. Tax breaks are huge in some countries.

Yesterday I read at some point in recent years the USA government funded a $118 million grant and is one reason there are free charging stations in some areas per that article.

Today there was an article claiming a 620 mile range for the very expensive Tesla Roadster to be out like next year.

I think we will see 1000 mile battery ranges within the next 10 years and at a cost more like the 100 mile range vehicles of 5 years ago. While the technology may not pan out in the article below there is too much being spent on finding more powerful and longer life rechargeable vehicle batteries for it not to bear fruit going forward.

Tech Breakthrough: Is This The End Of Lithium-Ion Batteries? | OilPrice.com

While Cracker Barrel has been installing EV chargers for the last 10 years the rumor at a local dealership is that they are putting in some EV chargers soon in Murray KY. One of the new hotels has three charging stations for guest usage. The Ford dealership has two that have been in for several years. A Walmart in Paducah even reports having a fast 50 amp EV charger.

You think you will soon see 1000mile range EV痴 ??? What make you 鍍hink that ?
Of course retailers will install chargers . It is about EV drivers being forced to park in front of a business while the batteries charge . Where will a person kill time while having their vehicles charged ?

 

[buickanddeere]

We also subsidize big oil.

Do tell us how we subsidize big oil ? Real numbers , not extrapolated imaginary numbers of money that does not change hands . Tell us how much revenue government coffers receive from Fossil taxes, fees, licenses and permits .

 

[buickanddeere]

Thanks for sharing what you are seeing in Norway. We are so far behind the curve in the USA but I expect we will see a lot of catching up over the next three years. I was like others in thinking our rural country side would not be possible to go mainstream with EV's then I got to reading about the huge advances in EV battery size and a million miles of life coming down the pike.

EV's will work where ever people live that can buy solar panels and the sun shines. The storage batteries are here today and getting better and cheaper year by year so we can recharge in a flash before we leave the house the next morning.

Below is an article about charging stations in Spain. They sound like they may work for the semi trucking industry.

Repsol Launches The Most Powerful Charging Station In Europe: 400 kW

Repsol Launches The Most Powerful Charging Station In Europe: 4�� kW

Huge advances in batteries ??? Where and what are these batteries with huge advances ? Lithium batteries are already pushed to the point of bursting into flame in vehicles , portable electronics and 787 aircraft .
Unless the Almighty adds some new elements to the periodic table . There are no new materials to make batteries out of that operate at room temperature, atmospheric pressure and are only moderately poisonous or liable to burst into flame .

 

[buickanddeere]

This is much like old people who refuse to use battery powered tools. They are taking over. Get used to it. And they're better.

5 years will be the flip point from more EV than gas cars. Trucks will take another couple of years.

When everyone has one every company will be focusing on the profits of better batteries and chargers and accessories.

Gasoline is the wagon wheel. Get on board or get left behind.

EV proponents may have Grand ideals , great intentions and wonderful feelings. However those pesky facts such as physics, finances and chemistry makes the EV utopia impossible