Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

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DieselBound

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“UNPO is???”
Open the link?
They're an "organization," NGO style. They are not the UN, NOT a legal body. Refer to the actual governing positions (essentially legal policies) by the US and Japan vis a vis Taiwan.

Look at these folks. I mean, really? These are the folks that you're going to follow into a war against China?

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Maybe, or it continues to adapt in a way that the Soviet Union never was able to, Gorbachev tryed to reform but it collapsed into a more or less bandit state where small groups stole state property and got sickening rich and leaving the citizens broke.
Yes, China is actually socializing it's Communism. Folks stuck in the Vietnam-Commie era mindset will be forever incapable of understanding the difference. Socialism is something that MANY early farming communities would engage in to help sustain themselves collectively: look up Grange; co-ops; church organizations are also a form.

The US actually screwed up Russia in the attempts by the West to rape Russia: US actually boasted of interfering in their elections- helping to get the POS Yelsin reelected. Putin is the demon because he wouldn't continue the country's wealth to be extracted by the West: allowed the oligarchs to stay out of jail if they kept their wealth in Russia- only way to try an hold the country together until it got firmly on its feet. People continue to believe that Russia is communist.

I'm all for folks being given the opportunity to improve. Demonizing and stopping discussions does NOT work toward such ends.
 

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They have a strict, authoritarian control.
Why are you so hung up on China? To me this sounds like projection, in that if you had your way you would force your views on them.

How about reporting on how to IMPROVE the US? If we have to trash China in order to do that then perhaps the US isn't as great as we've been programmed to believe it is? There's the Low Road and then there's the High Road...
 

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Didn’t know China bought any military equipment from us….
Energy independence would be a walk in the park for the US to achieve. If its used to power EV or ICEV, it could all be in the palm of our hands
Energy independence using? Are you old enough to see all the growth that's happened around you to understand there's this thing called growth and that perpetual growth is NOT possible? So, it's about FOR HOW LONG that independence can happen. Long enough for the usual US oligarchs to rack in more wealth and then walk away saying that things just didn't work out? Promotion of growth which will make that moment happen faster?

Strength through exhaustion. A rather bad strategy.
 

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Since all of you pro gas and diesel guys are fact based....

You have brought up lots of reasons not to embrace EV's into our infrastructure.
EV pollution from manufacturing. Overloading a already failing electrical power system and much more.

If you will... answer this for me.
#1. On a daily basis how much gas and diesel is used daily on 0-150 mile trips? This should also include those big boy diesels delivering heavy cargo and equipment as well.

#2. What US EV manufacture cannot do this on a daily basis?
 

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Meaning……?????
EVs wont be hauling the loads, either.
Future fossil fuel costs. It's not about EVs but about saving some fossil fuel for the coming centuries. Teslas use lube and oil filters.
 
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