Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Torvy]

To your "sidebar", I'm against a national sales tax. I think it's anti growth, negative to consuming, and promotes black markets. I also think corporations should not be taxed.

Kevin

Income taxes have a worse damper on growth. Black markets thrive when taxes are exhoribitant, regardless of tax source. The key, to me is to fix the tax rates in the amendment. If legislators want more money to spend, they need to grow the economy, raising taxes would take a supermajority.

 

[txdon]

I think the fallacy of the Tesla is the emphasis on 0-60 and driverless cars and $$$$$. When it should be range, quick charge and $$.

 

[cqaigy2]

But if I get there 5 hours sooner, I am not using any additional power or gas. The EV is still on the road.

The minimum you get is 50 MPG. Cities, traffic and construction all make gas vehicles less efficient. They just charge my battery and improve my efficiency.

I was referring to your power usage, not just the EV or ICE vehicle. It seems like it would be a wash as far as power usage if you used gasoline/diesel or electricity to go the same distance, assuming same number of kilowatts were used to go the same distance.

 

[/pine]

Just curious...if a driver of an EV hits a pedestrian...are they charged with battery...?

 

[Jstpssng]

Just curious...if a driver of an EV hits a pedestrian...are they charged with battery...?

groan!

 

[Gale Hawkins]

I think the fallacy of the Tesla is the emphasis on 0-60 and driverless cars and $$$$$. When it should be range, quick charge and $$.

I felt the same way at one point.

 

[Torvy]

I was referring to your power usage, not just the EV or ICE vehicle. It seems like it would be a wash as far as power usage if you used gasoline/diesel or electricity to go the same distance, assuming same number of kilowatts were used to go the same distance.

My point was that by extending the time to reach my destination, the EV forces me to consume more resources, both personally and ecologically. Hotel rooms use a lot more energy when occupied. My parents' house is going to use the same amount of resources whether I am there or not. (Mostly)

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Just curious...if a driver of an EV hits a pedestrian...are they charged with battery...?

That would be the case I guess if driving a GV.

 

[Hay Dude]

You need to watch some Elon Musk YouTube videos on this subject to under the falacy of your thinking.

The next time I see one of these videos I will post a link to it here.

I’ll understand the “fallacy of my thinking” when I see economical EVs sitting for sale on dealer lots.

 

[Hay Dude]

As you know in October 2019 to start erasing some of my EV ignorance I bought a 2016 Nissan Leaf SL with a dying traction battery pack after 22K miles.

The 107 miles EPA range was down to 60 miles. This helped me to learn about the subject of range anxiety since I live 15-25 miles from my 3 Walmart options.

I am 50 miles from a fast DC charger but I risked that it would be working. Only one fast charge a day is suggested per day because of overheating the battery.

The Nissan dealership assured me I would be triggering a new battery warranty soon. That happened 35 days after I got the car home. After some pushback I started to researching and learned that Nissan was all the ropes financially speaking and predicted to be in bankruptcy by 2022 by the fired CEO. Due a Covid-19 bail out and loans from Japan the bankruptcy can has been kicked down the road I expect.

Six weeks after I trailered it 75 miles to the nearest Nissan Leaf certified dealership I got a call the battery had come in. 20 minutes later I got a call back that the car was ready for me to pick up because the 30 kWh battery had been replaced with a new 40 kWh
$13,000 (per Nissan) battery at no cost to me.

So my driving range jumped from 60 miles to 150 miles. Nine months later a guy ran a red light in a Toyota van injuring my wife and daughter. While he totaled our Leaf he landed on his rooftop sliding to a stop when it hit the curb down the road.

EVs I have learned never run empty like a gas tank. When our Leaf warns Low Range it can pop up a list of charging stations and offer directions while you still have 15-20 miles of actual range. For bull headed redneck's that plow ahead Very Low Battery displays.

About 6 miles later the computer pops up a icon (think Limp mode). I have seen it once coming up the steep Hill to the house. Since I was 300 feet from the charger I didn't test the range to Drop Dead. For some reason after I powered down I restarted the computer and the turtle was gone. Keep it mind when my 400 volt battery reports dead it's still contains 350 DC volts.

Consider buying a sub $14K EV for your own EV crash course.

Hey, I resemble that! Lol
The battery warnings and locations of chargers won’t help when you’re stuck in traffic, it’s 100* and a car a mile ahead dies.