Beavers

   / Beavers #11  
Paul,
Maybe you have a bank beaver as we call it,and the den mostly located in the banks.

If the body of water somewhat still try useing a liqurd foam which will lay on top of the water surface.
It will not hurt the beaver but will sting his eyes as he or she swims and the should move on.

Stay safe and/w3tcompact/icons/cool.gif

Thomas..NH
 
   / Beavers #12  
Jyoutz was right, dang it, I was hoping it would more of a mystery, because there sure are a lot of people in Washington who don't know about one of their "residents"

Yes they are "mountain" beavers which don't have a tail, don't care for water (ponds). I don't even know if they are genetically related to "real" beavers.

They live in wagon wheel underground excavations. They don't come near the lawn because they like the rough areas. They stay away from people if they can smell them, as they can't seem to see or hear very well. I've only seen one near the buildings one time. I walked up to it just so I could see what it looked like up close. It couldn't see me or didn't see me as a threat, just ignored me, wanted it to turn around so it could get a look at it's face and shouted at it, no result. Finally it "smelled" me and spun around hissing, then turned it's back to me and waddled off!

That's a good defense, make a scary noise then turn your back and waddle off! They are competing with the rabbits and some other animal in excavating contests. The rabbit holes and beaver holes look similar, like if a dog could dig a tunnel, all the dirt thrown up behind it. We also have moles (which do like the lawn/w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif). Then there's the mystery animal...It makes mounds that put any mole to shame. It looks like a mole hill but is HUGE, like a large wheelbarrow of topsoil dumped on the ground, hole is big enough to stick your arm down without it touching sides. /w3tcompact/icons/shocked.gif.

Speaking of moles, I hate killing them too, but they find the island of topsoil I made to have a lawn an ideal place. I like to least keep the area around the house intact. Are there any old "wives" tales (or farmer's knowledge) that works to deter them. Has anyone successfully used some sort of live trap? The killer traps that snap shut work of course, I guess I'm somewhat of a rarity but I get no joy out of killing.

We share our property with an occasional racoon, coyote, deer, weasel, they don't seem to pay us any mind.

Our other property is more wild, we were up there once with the tractor and motorhome, the dog wouldn't stop barking, I finally went outside and told it to shut up (it slept under the motorhome). Next day happened to be looking around the fresh road I made, it looked like a deer stampede had gone through and we found some prints we thing were a bear, 4 very deep visible "prong" holes and a HUGE palm print. YIKES. And I was yelling at the dog to shutup, she was probably thinking...

"If you don't want me barking at THAT thing, WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME?"

I don't tell her to shut up anymore/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif
 
   / Beavers #13  
Do these mountain beavers cut down trees like regular beavers?
 
   / Beavers #14  
They don't cut trees as they don't build dams.

They do operate small logging operations though. I watched one systematically nip off some small plants, about 1 foot tall, drag them into their house under a canopy of an old stump and stack them neater than I stack my firewood logs (for later eating I guess).
 
   / Beavers #15  
Thanks, Dale I had never heard of mountain beavers before. I thought that they might be like what we call ground hogs here in Arkansas. But, I quess they aren't.
JerryG
 
   / Beavers #16  
Sounds like a groundhog to me. They love to live under stumps in Ohio.
 
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#17  
del, then these are not "mtn beaver" unless u consider 6" by 30' trees a small plant in your parts....there are several of them that were felled and left because the wound up cought in other trees...I was up there today mowing and forgot to check for fresh foraging...1st time ive been back up there in a few weeks...If it was just the little saplings they were knawing on it wouldn't be so irratating...It's these bigger more dangerous ones that i don't like.... My sister n law has some in there creek and they have walked in both directions for several miles and found no hutch...either...These are beaver we've seen them in the water fairly close and heard them slapping their tails...The ones in my pond unfortunately I 've yet to see...Like i said my pond is fed from the one above and it is spring fed,I think perhaps so is my'n. it"s still fairly high,and the one above is barely spilling over,I have walked the stream between them and found na'da'..I've also walked aways down stream from my'n to see if maybe they live that way and had no luck so far.It's to thick wooded at the moment...Maybe this winter I can walk from one end to the other...Maybe I'll try to talk the wife into wraping the trees with some thing...While i work on the tractor cutting the pasture.../w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif Any way like I said I'd just as soon not shot them...If I could find an effective way to discourage them and I guess that would best done by wrapping the trees I'd care to keep and either remove the ones I don't want or leave them to the beaver and deal with their left overs...Just realy didn't want to spend that much time right now on this particular project....If anyone has a better solution I game...

Lil' Paul

Laziness is the Father of invention.../w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 
   / Beavers #18  
Sounds like you have someone cutting down your firewood for you. I wonder how they know which direction to fall them? Be nice if you could teach them to dig the stumps up as well, or chew them flat!/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

That would be interesting to walk in my woods and never know which tree was standing on it's stump and which tree was standing on the ground away from the stump waiting to land on me!

If you are providing a home for wildlife, the least the government could do is have a nice 4 post canopy built for your tractor, and free issue a set of JD NH KUB brand hardhats for the family!

del
 
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#20  
Thanks Tom I'll check them out... del, Maybe I'll just put up a sign...
"Construction Site... Beaver at Work! Hard Hats Required!"/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif...
I wonder if Barnam and Baily would be interested...?/w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Lil' Paul

Laziness is the Father of invention.../w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif
 

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