Bent SSQA on Kubota...

ovrszd · Nov 18, 2016

downsizingnow48 said:
If the side not fully retracted had been bent forward, it would look the same. I think. I raise the point because if you use the tractor hydraulics to fix, as many do, you want to make sure you end up with both sides in factory position to maintain proper rollback.

Sometimes these things get a bit confusing when zooming thru my brain..... So bear with me.... With that said. The end result won't matter whether he bends one side forward or the other rearward. As long as they are both aligned won't he have the same stroke as before??? He hasn't bent the SSQA tabs. He's twisted the entire SSQA assembly at the crossmember.

ovrszd · Nov 18, 2016

IH782 said:
Good point, i don't think its anything i can't fix, but I do remember the insurance I pay every month will cover things like this.

Work checking into. If it's covered by insurance the shop won't straighten it, they'll replace it with a new one. If you go that route, ask to keep the bent one.

TnAndy · Nov 18, 2016

I've twisted my cross member a couple of times on different tractors. Happens to me when moving brush with the forks......a piece will flip one side up, and it comes loose from the pocket, and I don't catch it....by the time I do, I've twisted the cross member.

My previous one, the cross member was a simply piece of angle iron, and I was able to bump one side against a tree and re-align the two 'faces' that way.

My current one uses a piece of 1 1/2" pipe welded on each side....no amount of bumping moved it much, so I simply cut the pipe in the center with a metal cutting wheel on a hand held grinder, re-aligned it, and welded the cut back. Took 10 minutes.

downsizingnow48 · Nov 18, 2016

ovrszd said:
Sometimes these things get a bit confusing when zooming thru my brain..... So bear with me.... With that said. The end result won't matter whether he bends one side forward or the other rearward. As long as they are both aligned won't he have the same stroke as before??? He hasn't bent the SSQA tabs. He's twisted the entire SSQA assembly at the crossmember.

I dunno for sure. guess I would want to see it before opining further.

ovrszd · Nov 18, 2016

downsizingnow48 said:
I dunno for sure. guess I would want to see it before opining further.

The SSQA is a one piece bracket that pins to the FEL. The two latch mechanisms are held together by a crossmember of some type. Usually a tube. This crossmember twists to produce the "bend" most talk about. So one cylinder is going to extend to the max first and stop the "dump" circuit. The other is going to compress to the max first and stop the "curl" circuit. The two cylinders don't know the other one exists until it reaches max stroke either way.

downsizingnow48 · Nov 18, 2016

Yep this is making my head hurt but here goes. I am not thinking about cyl stroke. Thinking this. If you draw a line through the centers of the ssqa attaching pins. Then draw another line extending the face of the ssqa paddle. They form an angle. If one paddle was bent back and you bend the other one to match then that angle will be different from factory. That is why I say have to figger which paddle was bent and was it forward or back then bend it back to factory position.

ovrszd · Nov 18, 2016

Yep, makes me dizzy too.

Here's my analogy. Unpin the SSQA and lay it on flat concrete face down. If you stand on one end making it lay flat on the concrete the other end will only be touching the concrete at either the top or at the bottom. Does it matter whether you lift whichever is touching the concrete or push down on whichever is in the air? Nope. End result is the same.

Xfaxman · Nov 18, 2016

downsizingnow48 said:
Yep this is making my head hurt but here goes. I am not thinking about cyl stroke. Thinking this. If you draw a line through the centers of the ssqa attaching pins. Then draw another line extending the face of the ssqa paddle. They form an angle. If one paddle was bent back and you bend the other one to match then that angle will be different from factory. That is why I say have to figger which paddle was bent and was it forward or back then bend it back to factory position.

When it left the factory they were perfectly in line. Doesn't matter which one gets bent back perfectly in line, the cylinder travel is the same, maximum to minimum. When you go to hook onto the attachment, they will both touch it at the same time.

The crossbar is only there to make it easy to hook onto an attachment, you can remove the crossbar completely and the SSQA will still work fine.

ovrszd · Nov 18, 2016

Xfaxman said:
When it left the factory they were perfectly in line. Doesn't matter which one gets bent back perfectly in line, the cylinder travel is the same, maximum to minimum. When you go to hook onto the attachment, they will both touch it at the same time.

The crossbar is only there to make it easy to hook onto an attachment, you can remove the crossbar completely and the SSQA will still work fine.

And I believe that's why the crossmembers are usually junk. Only purpose is to hold the two ends of the SSQA at the same angle when changing attachments. Once an attachment is latched you can cut the crossmember out and throw it away...... Until you want to unlatch......