Bent subsoiler

[Newtocvt]

The other day I decided to go out and do some subsoiling to improve drainage and compaction. I didn稚 go very fast and didn稚 think I was being rough of the subsoiler but when I went to take it off I noticed I bent the subsoiler frame where the 3 point pins are. I知 not very knowledgeable about metal working so it was wondering what you guys think I should do. Try to heat it and beat it straight? Would a jack push them back straight or just leave it as is? Thanks.

 

[3Ts]

Not really sure how to answer you. It depends on how badly bent it is and where the bent parts are. You said "where the 3 point pins are", so it sounds as though the ears on the implement got bent, so if it's not to bad I'd just leave it as is. But if it's really bad, I'd suggest cutting off the ears and weld on new ones. Pictures would help, or without pictures a brand and model number would help provide a better answer.

 

[Newtocvt]

It’s a king kutter subsoiler. I will take some pictures tomorrow and post them. Thanks!!

 

[bullbreaker]

The other day I decided to go out and do some subsoiling to improve drainage and compaction. I didn稚 go very fast and didn稚 think I was being rough of the subsoiler but when I went to take it off I noticed I bent the subsoiler frame where the 3 point pins are. I知 not very knowledgeable about metal working so it was wondering what you guys think I should do. Try to heat it and beat it straight? Would a jack push them back straight or just leave it as is? Thanks.

King Krutter has two SS models . There heavy duty version is rated for more hp , built beefier of course . I see you have a 54 hp rated tractor etc . If yours is the economy lower rated , possibly imported steel version , not sheer bolt protected I would not even bother useing it on your tractor . I would fix it , sell it , try to get my money back if you bought it new . Or use it for trade bait . TractorData.com New Holland Boomer 54D tractor information

King Kutter Category 1 and 2 Heavy Duty Subsoiler SUB-HD-RR (Red)

 

[Newtocvt]

It’s the cheaper one I have. Guess I learned a lesson. Here are some pictures.

 

[mikester]

It’s the cheaper one I have. Guess I learned a lesson. Here are some pictures. View attachment 665578View attachment 665577View attachment 665576View attachment 665578View attachment 665577View attachment 665576

Be thankful if didnt bend something on your tractor. Just get a large adjustable pipe wrench and an extension pipe and cold bend the lower link mounts back in place. Take the lower link pins out first!

 

[ray66v]

Soft, or poorly hardened steel.

Remove the pins, and straighten the flange with a long pipe wrench.

 

[blackd]

Take the straightening advice above then reinforce with a 2nd layer of steel on those ears. You might find the other weak spot(s) the next time you use it. There is a lower chance that you will find your tractor's weak spot by using this light weight tool.

 

[DieselBound]

I've done that!

Cheap sub soiler (Northern Tool?). Cat1 on the back of my NX. Just looking to do something quick for a neighbor. Snagged some nasty stuff. Moral of my story: don't try to run Cat1 stuff on a Cat2 tractor!

It's one reason why I like the through-pin lower link hook ups: I tend to refer to this as "captured lower link," don't know what the real term is; basically stuff that's "quick hitch compatible." Not sure how this would be done with something like a subs soiler, but all other equipment I prefer to be this way.

As noted, better to bend something like this than to break something on the tractor side.

 

[CADplans]

Rather than bend,, (which will typically end up bruising your knuckles before you are done,,,)
I would cut those "ears" off and replace with "ears" that are twice as thick,,

OR, if the welding of such thick metal is out of your capability,,
fabricate a connection that uses double ears on both sides, with a pin going through,,
With double ears, the plates only need to be 2/3 as thick, and they will easily resist bending.

So, it kinda boils down to what steel you have laying around, and how thick of steel you can weld,,

By far, the double ears on both sides will be the best,,,

 

[ruffdog]

Get the ears straight and add simple gusseting to box it in. Leave room for a socket for your nut.

 

[CoyPatton]

My guess would be a combination of cheaper import steel, over HP for the implement, and hitting some solid relatively roots. The metal is mow fatigued at both bends. Straighten it! Reinforce it! (You have 2 suggestions) I suggested do both if you plan to continue to use it.
Go behind the cross brace that comes around to form the bend portion and go out to create a slide in out pin holding frame.
Then from the current outside edge of the ear (after straightened) go from there to under the bottom of the cross brace.
Doing both will create a very strong pin joint (assuming you can weld these new pieces in solid).
Good luck on your repair!

 

[jmc]

Geez. Part of a good design is to anticipate reasonable contingencies. Eventually snagging a buried object with a subsoiler could have been anticipated with an extra dollar's worth of fab cost. If I ever consider a KK implement, I'll keep this subsoiler in mind.

 

[Newtocvt]

Thank you so much for all the help. Wish I could say I fixed it but not yet. I did get the pins out and tried bending with my pipe wrench but I could bend the ears. I don’t have a pipe big enough to fit over my pipe wrench handle. It looks to me that even if I get them bent back they will need some additional support. The ears are 1/2 steel and that’s beyond my very limited welding ability.

For now I guess it’s use as is or find a shop to cut the ears and weld new support on. Thanks again!

 

[Tinhack]

That probably would have broken the draft arm mounts off a lesser tractor. A 3-pound hand sledge will probably straighten those tabs out. I'm not sure I'd beef that up. You want something to give besides your tractor. Go slower so you can "feel the drag" and/or go to depth in two passes.

 

[Mat4644]

Three point lower arms with balls allow the implement pins to rotate and bend the supports. Put the proper bushings on and a quality quick hitch and this is less likely to happen.

 

[ruffdog]

Geez. Part of a good design is to anticipate reasonable contingencies. Eventually snagging a buried object with a subsoiler could have been anticipated with an extra dollar's worth of fab cost. If I ever consider a KK implement, I'll keep this subsoiler in mind.

Do you expect the lower priced product to achieve the same performance as the heavy duty product from the same manufacturer?

 

[5030]

Do you expect the lower priced product to achieve the same performance as the heavy duty product from the same manufacturer?

Exactly, it's a weenie.

 

[ruffdog]

The OP bought the $200 version while KK also sells a HD $560 version. I guess you get what you pay for, eh?

King Kutter Category 1 and 2 Heavy Duty Subsoiler SUB-HD-YK

 

[jmc]

My point was that for another dollar, they coulda added a small gusset or otherwise arranged for the pin not to be attached to a cantilevered tab.