Best Implements to use?

Scozz · Jan 12, 2005

For what its worth I had a 4' box blade on my YM2000 and it was virtually worthless to me for anything other than counter balast. Without 4WD,draft control or TNT the blade would constantly dig in leaving my wheels just spinning .. Scozz

KiotiJohn · Jan 12, 2005

( Thanks a lot, Kiota John, you are correct on the 2wd and close on the HP it is 19pto and 21 engine. And yes that is one reason I shyed away from the loader. Not to mention the loader was a lot more than I paid for the tractor. I'll look into the gage wheels. )
I hate to dispute you, but all the Japanese market tractors are model numbered using the PTO HP as the a portion of the model number. In this case 16 represents the PTO HP. As a rule of them, you add 3 HP to that figure to get engine HP, until you get over, I think, 25 PTO then you add 4 HP. That makes yours 16 at the PTO and 19 engine. This is important to the jobs you may want to do. A lot of gray market sellers misrepresent the actual HP because they know US models are rated by engine HP, so they up the HP rating to make them more attractive. John

Soundguy · Jan 12, 2005

Very nice. I stayed with soem people once that had a pole barn.. the bottom was open.. and the top was actually modeled into a house on the inside. From the exterior.. it simply looked like a big barn.. inside was 'house'. With a few neat options. At one end, the wall (door) rolled away and you had a big 12' open area to look out. I stayed with them for a summer and helped out around the place when i was a kid. i kinda miss it.

Soundguy

Soundguy · Jan 12, 2005

( For what its worth I had a 4' box blade on my YM2000 and it was virtually worthless to me for anything other than counter balast. Without 4WD,draft control or TNT the blade would constantly dig in leaving my wheels just spinning )

Odd.. Unfortunately.. I'd have to say that you probably had your toplink adjusted wrong.. or didn't have quite a deft enough hand on your 3pt lift.

My ym1700 ( same frame size as your 2000 ) pulled a 5' box blade fine. In fact, I used it to dig out the red clay floor out on my horse barn when it was being built. That stuff was packed hard like concrete.. you had to run thru it with rippers a couple times before you could drag a box of it.

I still think he should go with a 4' box though.. it minimizes the chances for him to 'get in trouble'.

Soundguy

KiotiJohn · Jan 12, 2005

Just saw that fabulous new barn. I'm orange with envy! John /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Soundguy · Jan 12, 2005

Kiotijohn.. could they be rating his in kw's?

Soundguy

KiotiJohn · Jan 12, 2005

( Kiotijohn.. could they be rating his in kw's? )
Iseki 1610, PTO HP is 16.
Iseki and Yanmar both use the model number system as well as most of the other makers like Hinomoto. The Japanese are more interested in PTO HP than engine, one of the reasons they put it in the model number.
I researched grays for over a year before deciding to buy a new tractor. I found lots of dealers upping the HP rating. Some even went so far as to say they had used a dynamo to measure, and were adding, in some cases, as much as 10 HP!! John

Harleymsn · Jan 13, 2005

Kiota John, I won't pretend to be an expert on the HP rating. However, I believe Leonard Shaefer of Shaefer tractor is one of the most knowledgeable guys on several gray market tractors especially the Iseki. According to him, (and no, I didn't buy my tractor from him) they are rated in metric HP which equates to about 20% less than sae HP. That he says is why the equivalent US versions of many Japanese tractors have a different # series. Of course weather it is 16 or 19 the tractor is the same, it is a low HP tractor and that is why I want to be careful, not to buy any implements that will overtax the tractor. I know that a larger tractor, with 4WD and a loader would be great to have. However, with a 1/4 acre garden, about a 1 acre lawn and another 5 acres of woods, I don't have a NEED for the bigger tractor.

Cliff_Johns · Jan 13, 2005

( According to him, (and no, I didn't buy my tractor from him) they are rated in metric HP which equates to about 20% less than sae HP. )

1 English HP = 1.0139 Metric HP

Cliff

KiotiJohn · Jan 13, 2005

( Kiota John, I won't pretend to be an expert on the HP rating. However, I believe Leonard Shaefer of Shaefer tractor is one of the most knowledgeable guys on several gray market tractors especially the Iseki. According to him, (and no, I didn't buy my tractor from him) they are rated in metric HP which equates to about 20% less than sae HP. )
Yes, that is correct. And it's figured this way. You take the 16 or 1610 as the PTO HP. Metric, that would be 16.2224 HP. Now multiply that by 1.20, the twenty percent to get the total 19.46688. I learned that from Leonard as well on Yahoo's Yanmartractorowners group about two years ago. That's why I say the rule of thumb is to take the first two numbers of the model and add three. It gives you an apporximate.
You're right about not needing a larger tractor, I just didn't want you to buy implements designed for 25HP when that's not what you have. Some mowers are only rated for 15 PTO HP. A typical 25 engine HP tractor would have more PTO HP than that usually. John