Better RIde R-1's or R-4'S

[chim]

Re: Better RIde R-1\'s or R-4\'S

It would be interesting to do a real test on R1/R4 hillside performance. I mow a couple of hillsides at my Mom-in-law's place that I had used R1's on for years. The tractor kinda "crabs" its way along the hill, with the rear farther downhill than the front. I have only used the other tractor (with R4's) one time on the hill, and it actually seemed more stable. Another shorter but steeper hill can only be mowed up and down with the R1's, but I can mow across with the R4's. The feel (maybe sitting higher?) of the tractor with the R4's is such that on a long hill, the pucker factor is higher.

Outside of getting the kids to hang onto a rope on the ROPS and go for the threshold of upsidedownness, it would be tough for me to give you real data. Whatever the difference, it's not night-and-day........................chim

 

[Henro]

Re: Better RIde R-1\'s or R-4\'S

<font color="blue"> Someone always mentions that r-4's are worse on hillsides about slipping sideways but what about going up and down hills? </font>

I can tell you for sure that the R4s on my Kubota B2910 are not great on the soggy, wet grassy slopes around here, like we find in late fall and spring time...

After my first uncontrolled slide down a grassy slope that was not really that steep last fall, I learned my lesson. I don't know if R1s would have made a difference or not, but I think they might have.

Now chains go on the rear tires in late fall and stay on till late spring...no more sliding down the slopes now... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

 

[JLoaf]

Re: Better RIde R-1\'s or R-4\'S

Thanks for all the input. I went with R-1's on my New L3830 DT w/ LA723 - HD bucket and Skid Steer QA.
I'm glad that I went with the R-1's. I live on top of a hill with with a quarry for my neighbor. I wouldn't have thought there was a swamp on my property. While clearing an area of briars and sapplings, I found a nice little bog. I only got stuck once, and that was due to my bush hog. By the time I realized my bush hog was keeping me from moving, I had buried up pretty good. After unhooking the bush hog, the tractor crawled right out of the hole. I am loving my new Kubota!

 

[farmerdick]

Re: Better RIde R-1\'s or R-4\'S

Overall I think you made the right choice. R1's can bounce on hard surfaces but will give better traction than R4's in mud , wet grass or snow. Also good puncture protection from rocks or wood.
[I have R1's and have a friend who wishes he had chosen R1's instead of R4's].

 

[aloha]

Re: Better RIde R-1\'s or R-4\'S

Is Henro's answer, R-4s with rear chains when it gets sloppy, the solution to get traction without losing the load-carrying capacity of R-4s? Every time this soon-to-buy guy figures out whether to go with R-1 or R-4, that certainty lasts about 5 minutes.

Is there anyone who is really sorry with their choice? If so, what are the uses/conditions for which your tires were unsuited?

 

[Gro_Kiwi]

Re: Better RIde R-1\'s or R-4\'S

I got this tidbit from Steve at Carver Equipment Carvequip@aol.com on R1 vs R4 tires

sc - IN MY OPINION, after selling over approx 400 of the 27,29,78s.
In Dry HARD conditions the R4 and turf and ag do quite well, with the R4s doing best

In DAMP HARD conditions the R4 and ag do quite well, with the R4s doing best
When this soil is wet, it sticks to the tires.

In DAMP SOFT conditions the R4 and ag do quite well, with the R4s doing best

In WET Hard conditions the R4 and ag do quite well, with the R4s doing best

In WET SOFT and SLOPPY conditions the R4 and ag do quite well, with the AGs doing best

In ALL CONDITIONS where the primary function is using a LOADER -> the R4 do best of all.

Our sales ratios for B2410s, 2710, 2910, 7800

8% turf
0% af
92% R4s