Big cities are dying. This should shock you.

[Jstpssng]

I take it Washington doesn't have convict work crews? We had them out fighting forest fires last summer in Oregon. The county jail work crews do the trash pickup, pressure wash streets and parking structures, etc.

I volunteered on a search for a lost hiker years ago, the prison sent up some of the firefighter convicts you mentioned and I got talking with the guard who accompanied them. He said they actually do a lot of work there, learning auto mechanics et al and hopefully learning a trade and/or how to work when they get out.

 

[PILOON]

Well said. Similar for the druggies on the street, they should work as in the Albuquerque link.

Agree. but then the lawyers get involved and they get the courts to agree that it's against established rules or laws.
Long live lawyers!
Wish my daddy could have bought me an enrolment in one of those prestigious schools!

 

[Jstpssng]

Agree. but then the lawyers get involved and they get the courts to agree that it's against established rules or laws.
Long live lawyers!
Wish my daddy could have bought me an enrolment in one of those prestigious schools!

That's been tried before, back in the Clinton era. I remember one "volunteer" who worked at the library; her supervisor told me it was more work to redo her work than to do it right the first time.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

There is a certain segment of our society bent on destroying it.
I will not mention the the segment, because it would get political, but I wish that they would see their failures and see what is being left behind

I agree... Sometimes right is wrong.

 

[Oldoak]

I agree... Sometimes right is wrong.

Just to be correct, right is never wrong.

 

[ultrarunner]

Agree. but then the lawyers get involved and they get the courts to agree that it's against established rules or laws.
Long live lawyers!
Wish my daddy could have bought me an enrolment in one of those prestigious schools!

The fallout is huge and my niece is right in the middle... athletic scholarships in many affected schools are now on hold... she was in the running at several prestigious universities leaving two offers on the table from not named institutions.

You never know what life holds... in her case training started at age 4 with dreams of the Olympics...

The 6 day a week before school and after school training has been intense since Junior High...

 

[Alan W.]

Most of the smaller towns around here are parasites. They use annexation to get the Walmart then the Highschool so they can tax the workers but little outlay on the towns part. This is because they are going broke spending more than they take in.
I am a firm believer in the build it and they will come philosophy when it involves the homeless. The more infrastructure ya put up the more will come.
In days past the Salvation Army and the local churches would tend to what homeless there were. Now its a business to run a nonprofit homeless shelter and dont forget about all the new agencies we now have to handle what for a lot of people is a lifestyle not a hardship.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

That's been tried before, back in the Clinton era. I remember one "volunteer" who worked at the library; her supervisor told me it was more work to redo her work than to do it right the first time.

We had a similar experience. When Clinton cut welfare back to a max of 5 years they had an OJT training program that paid the salary of welfare moms to do office work. HR stuck us with one, who had absolutely no initiative. If you didn't give her constant direction, she would come to a stop and just sit there. Lights on, nobody home.

I don't use that as a reason to condemn the whole program. Some women are worth more than others.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Most of the smaller towns around here are parasites. They use annexation to get the Walmart then the Highschool so they can tax the workers but little outlay on the towns part. This is because they are going broke spending more than they take in.
I am a firm believer in the build it and they will come philosophy when it involves the homeless. The more infrastructure ya put up the more will come.
In days past the Salvation Army and the local churches would tend to what homeless there were. Now its a business to run a nonprofit homeless shelter and dont forget about all the new agencies we now have to handle what for a lot of people is a lifestyle not a hardship.

My wife says there is money and profit in poverty and suffering; Sounds like she might have a point.

 

[4570Man]

There’s nothing you can do to help people who don’t want to help themselves. Money or lack there of isn’t the problem.