Big cities are dying. This should shock you.

[ultrarunner]

I wish the greenies would protest the pollution and impact that untreated feces, urine and whatever else does to the environment and go head to head in a battle with the encampment people. I would pay to watch that.

They do when it comes from cows!!!

 

[ultrarunner]

Curiously, what is the normal climate there? I've only been in SF twice in my life, and both times it was in the 50s, overcast and drizzling. Both times were in the summer, and 25 mi. inland it was sunny & warm. Did I just hit 2 bad days?

Agree on the jobs, all those Silicon Valley techies have to live somewhere. As far as beauty, so much of that is in the eye of the beholder.

Parade magazine commissioned a climate survey with the premise of where to live with the best climate among major metros in the United States... a lot was based on heating and cooling days and Oakland CA was the only metro to score two months of the year...

Not unusual to see million plus homes here with no A/C and older homes from the 1920's and 30's with only a small 25,000 btu. floor furnace.

This plus nearly ideal humidity and sunny but not to hot days for much of the Bay Area... I think humidity is more the factor than temp... and rare as in very rare hard freeze.

I have hosted a lot of visitors over the years from Germany/Austria... they love the SF Bay Area and California... they are also a bit shocked at the trash and homeless too...

SF with the hills, the bay, Golden Gate bridge, Cable Cars, Parks... are a huge draw as our the Redwoods, Wine Country, Monterey, Carmel and more South Big Sur...

Some of the medical professionals I work with are from England and Germany... they surf Santa Cruz and ski Tahoe... plus the lack of dreary grey days and bugs are other comments...

Maybe it all comes down to people behaving badly and more so being tolerated/embraced?

 

[Industrial Toys]

I guess the Germans that always considered AMERICA so dirty, are having their own home land now destroyed too.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

I wish the greenies would protest the pollution and impact that untreated feces, urine and whatever else does to the environment and go head to head in a battle with the encampment people. I would pay to watch that.

I just saw a headline that Congress is one vote away from legalizing human composting. I didn't read the article, because human waste is really low volume where I live, but it might be part of a solution. If someone could make a living picking up crap and selling it, there might be a market driven solution. Dog poop is right in there too. My dog has 90 acres to crap in. I don't care where he dumps. He has an untrained habit of going at least 50 yards from the house, so I rarely even see it. Rain and insects handle the recycling. If I had to deal with 6 dogs per acre, it would be a problem.

Recycling has solved a lot of problems. Look at cooking oil. Nowadays, recycling outfits send tankers around to pick up used cooking oil.

 

[bcp]

I just saw a headline that Congress is one vote away from legalizing human composting. I didn't read the article, because human waste is really low volume where I live, but it might be part of a solution. If someone could make a living picking up crap and selling it, there might be a market driven solution. Dog poop is right in there too. My dog has 90 acres to crap in. I don't care where he dumps. He has an untrained habit of going at least 50 yards from the house, so I rarely even see it. Rain and insects handle the recycling. If I had to deal with 6 dogs per acre, it would be a problem.

Recycling has solved a lot of problems. Look at cooking oil. Nowadays, recycling outfits send tankers around to pick up used cooking oil.

I think they mean human bodies, not human waste. But maybe the other is happening, too.

Human composting: Washington set to legalize green burial alternative

Bruce

 

[Industrial Toys]

There has been the very odd time when I just didn't feel like going to the house so just squatted by a tree. I guess if something happens to my life here, I am all set and prepared to live on the Streets of SF.

The local STOOL BUS, used to suck out ones septic and spread it where ever one wished (on ones own property). No way, today!

As far as Human Composting. That's a total waste, when you could make Soylent Greens!

 

[Jstpssng]

Somebody (the plow guy?) had to "do their business", and stepped off the only trail into the woods that I kept open through this winter's snow. My dog has the annoying habit of eating human waste, so guess who found it. This was only about 120 yards from my house, and whoever it was had a mile and a half of road to choose from with just two other residences.

 

[lilranch2001]

Hopefully your dog does not get to indulge in his habit often!
Good thing he does not live near one of the city痴 mentioned in this thread, he would get obese very quickly!

 

[jjp8182]

You got that right... there is a segment that go out of their way to litter on purpose and blatant.

I've said litter or the lack of it is one way to view a region.

I'd agree with that and add the type of litter says a lot as well.

Really about the only places where I can ever remember as being litter free were residential parts of suburbs -- and pristine wilderness.

In cities it's almost like few care enough to prevent it, and in the rural areas it seems there's a general lack of concern about being caught by those who may/would care. Which means anyone owning significant rural road frontage will likely be picking up and disposing of a lot of other people's trash.

Where as in suburban areas it seems there's just enough concern about being caught littering in someone's yard that most people refrain from doing so --- and in the wilderness there may not even be anyone there to litter.

 

[ovrszd]

Somebody (the plow guy?) had to "do their business", and stepped off the only trail into the woods that I kept open through this winter's snow. My dog has the annoying habit of eating human waste, so guess who found it. This was only about 120 yards from my house, and whoever it was had a mile and a half of road to choose from with just two other residences.

Your dog has been exposed to human waste enough times that you know he's gonna eat it?

 

[Jstpssng]

^^^^
I work outside, where a lot of people recreate. So yes, he gets around where slobs have left their mark. I understand that when you got to go you got to go, but at least cover it up afterwards. I find rocks logs, or something else to make it difficult to get at; or find a hollow log, then dump dirt and moss afterward.
(I have also seen where a bear has come along after me and moved the pile of rocks... bleah!!)

I sometimes ask people "How would you feel if a fly landed on the sandwich you were eating, then you got out of the truck and found that somebody had "left a pile" on the side of the road?"

I worked on a project for a power company a few years ago so had to go through training first. One thing which was grounds for immediate dismissal was failure to use the porta-potties; apparently on a project in New Hampshire so many people had used the woods that the runoff polluted the local water supply.

 

[Industrial Toys]

As far as the dog goes. Is that normal or just some kind of fetish?

 

[2LaneCruzer]

As far as the dog goes. Is that normal or just some kind of fetish?

Dogs evolved as den animals. Life in a den cannot survive if they poop there; therefore it is instinctive for a dog to poop somewhere they do not live. It is also instinctive, for a dog, especially a new mother, to eat the poop of their litter. It is perverted in some cases, but it is instinctive.

 

[ultrarunner]

I'd agree with that and add the type of litter says a lot as well.

Really about the only places where I can ever remember as being litter free were residential parts of suburbs -- and pristine wilderness.

In cities it's almost like few care enough to prevent it, and in the rural areas it seems there's a general lack of concern about being caught by those who may/would care.

Every morning the overnight trash is about the same... take-out/fast-food and things like alcohol bottles and diapers...

I don't know what it is about those that like Ketchup but they litter... always finding a half dozen opened foil packs of ketchup strategically around the parking lot... eat the meal, open the door, toss out the trash and drive away...

 

[Industrial Toys]

Always being the curious one. I wonder if there is nutrition in poop? Let's say you are a meat eater with no food. Is poop, better than eating bark, for instance?

 

[aczlan]

Always being the curious one. I wonder if there is nutrition in poop? Let's say you are a meat eater with no food. Is poop, better than eating bark, for instance?

It depends on the critter, as I recall, some critters do not fully digest their food so somebody else can eat their poop and get more nutrition out of it, I am not sure how that compares to eating something like bark however.

Aaron Z

 

[Industrial Toys]

I know the corn and peanuts are often STILL GOOD! lol

 

[lilranch2001]

sick
:confused2:
:ashamed:

 

[goeduck]

I know the corn and peanuts are often STILL GOOD! lol

Are you talking about unprocessed corn? Someone ought to give the drug encampments lots of corn on the cob. Maybe feces with unprocessed corn in it on the sidewalk would gross out the city officials. Or some downtown business could pick up the feces and take it to city council meeting and place in in the garbage can to make a point. In Seattle the mayor says it is the property owners responsibility to clean up those peoples feces and dispose of it so how could they complain? The riper the better.

 

[ovrszd]

Dogs evolved as den animals. Life in a den cannot survive if they poop there; therefore it is instinctive for a dog to poop somewhere they do not live. It is also instinctive, for a dog, especially a new mother, to eat the poop of their litter. It is perverted in some cases, but it is instinctive.

And then man got involved and dummied them down. House dogs are a disgrace to their wild ancestors.