Big difference in turning radius: Kioti NX5510 vs Kubota MX5200 vs Mihindra 2555

[countrybumpkin]

My NX5510 cab with R4s WITHOUT brakes is 13'1"

Rears are set at 28.5" centers

 

[LD1]

My NX5510 cab with R4s WITHOUT brakes is 13'1"

Rears are set at 28.5" centers

If my math is correct.....thats ~72" outside to outside? If so.....thats spot on what my MX5100 is that I tested.

That turning radius.....was that to the outside of the track left by the front tire?

 

[countrybumpkin]

Yes your correct , it's 72" outside to outside of my rears. As for the radius , yes it from center of the circle to the farthest mark of which is the front tire.

 

[LD1]

Yes your correct , it's 72" outside to outside of my rears. As for the radius , yes it from center of the circle to the farthest mark of which is the front tire.

Thanks.

That gives us rear world tests of

MX 5100 @ 11'2"
NX5510c @ 13.1"

Rear wheel spacing set the same.

Only difference being you have R4's. I assume you did that test in 2wd?

 

[countrybumpkin]

Yes 2wd

 

[DieselBound]

So, Kioti's published numbers are wrong. Um, well... or the numbers are right but their description (w/brakes) is wrong. I suspect that the 13' 1" is without brakes (as real-world confirmed by countybumpkin) and the 9' 8"' is with brake. And, thanks to LD1 we have a reference number for the MX5100 with no brake assist.

So, according to my math I have:

No brakes
Kubota's turning radius is 14% better than the Kioti's
Kioti's turning radius is 17% worse than the Kubota's

I'm guessing, then, that Kioti's turning WITH brakes is the 9' 8" they list for the cab model. If this is the case then the difference between the two tractors is about 10%.

While Kubota's agility is the winner here it's not as huge a difference as the 37% figure that the published figures provide for/state. The Kioti dealer said that he thought Kioti was really good on their published info and it wasn't likely they were wrong: looks like not only is Kioti wrong, but so too the dealer.

Hat's off to you guys!:thumbsup:

 

[wolc123]

I can relate to your fixation with turning radius. I keep an old, tricycle-front tractor (Allis Chalmers model C) specifically for the purpose of skidding logs out of my woodlot. With break assist, that tractor actually does turn on a dime. Unmatched manuverability, and far superior forward visibility, make it much easier to drive thru the congested woods than a wide-front tractor. With those, the front tires often block your view of stumps etc.. Finally, the damage it causes to the soft forest floor, while skidding logs, is much less than occurs from a wide-front, 4wd tractor. Getting the steering tires out of the same track as the drive tires makes for a much softer footprint. This style tractor is obviously not a stable as a wide-front on hills, and the over-abundance of lawsuits and lawyers we have here in America these days have prevented it's manufacture for many years. These days, flat-landers like myself are stuck with antiques if they want the best skidding tractors, designed back in the day when common sense trumped fear of lawsuits. I still see some folks using those old trikes with belly mowers, sort of the original ZTM. The biggest issue with the old trikes, being mostly tall "row-crop" models, is difficulty getting on and off. I welded up a little step, and bolted it below the operator platform to make that easier on mine.