Buying Advice Bigger tractor vs Cab

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   / Bigger tractor vs Cab #11  
I would recommend a 40-50 hp tractor with 4WD. And since you will be mowing - a cab with AC. I have 80 acres but do not mow with my tractor. Open station with canopy.

In the winter it's just me, Eddie Bauer down( from ankle to top of my head). I'm warm and enjoy being out in the open. In the summer - lots of water - the canopy - I'm doing fine.
 
   / Bigger tractor vs Cab #12  
When I was younger, an open station tractor was perfectly OK. I'm 71 now and in recent years a cab that had heat for Winter was very much appreciated. At the end of 2018, going larger and having A/C in addition to the heat was even better.
 
   / Bigger tractor vs Cab #13  
Couple of things about cabs. They're not good in wooded settings and if doing maintenance tasks requiring getting on and off often (like 99% are) the cab is a triple PIA.
 
   / Bigger tractor vs Cab #14  
Couple of things about cabs. They're not good in wooded settings and if doing maintenance tasks requiring getting on and off often (like 99% are) the cab is a triple PIA.

I have read this several times before from different posters. I have an open station and a cabbed tractor and I don't find it any more difficult getting in and out of the cab. The only thing additional is opening and closing the door. The cab is a little easier because there are more grab handles to help get inside.
Just my experience.
 
   / Bigger tractor vs Cab #15  
I was quite specific on what I wanted. Full hydro package (3rd function, power beyond, and diverter). IIRC orange was more money than the green with those options. I found the Deere cab to be nicer. I leaned green b/c I had the snow blower already and did not want to change it. However, with the deere you cannot have the front 3pnt hitch on with the loader. Switching to that is a real pain. Is it nice? **** yeah. But a few hour job every spring/fall AND you cannot just go grab the loader if needed. Likely same with any brand. I think a loader mounted snow blower would be my preferred choice due to simplicity. Unsure how they work relative to the PTO. Given the cost of the hitch, I should have sold the PTO blower and got the loader one.
 
   / Bigger tractor vs Cab #16  
I'd like to thank everyone for their input and convincing me I need to spend more money

I'm now looking at the JD 3 series (3033/9r), Kubota MX5400 and the L3560, all cabbed. I've been in all 3, and thought the JD layout and cab was particularly nice, but was concerned with the clearance since it will be spending time in the woods. The MX5400, as expected, was a little more basic, and I thought the cab was a little louder, but it was still quite nice. I liked the larger front tires as well and thought it might do better in the forest. I'm also wondering if less electronics means less issues in the long run. The L3560 was also nice, but felt more cramped than the MX5400. Right now, I'm strongly considering either the 3033 or the MX5400, though I'm waiting for a price on the Kubota tractors just in case they're way above the deere price. I've been around to look at Mahindra, New Holland and the rest, and am going to choose between orange or green. The dealer network is much better where I am for those brands. Does anyone have a strong opinion for/against any of those 3, or think I should look at something different?

Couple of things about cabs. They're not good in wooded settings and if doing maintenance tasks requiring getting on and off often (like 99% are) the cab is a triple PIA.

I think you are making the right decision to move up to spending more money. That's a lot of land you have, and buying too small is a mistake nearly all of us have made. Not that the little machine won't do the work, but it does take much longer and beats you up more.

On orange vs green, I've had both - & still do. Twenty years ago I preferred green and now lean toward the orange - largely because I like some of their material selections and simper electrical direction they went at the time. But as soon as that trend make one preferable then the other side gets competitive. So I think that both are good. Electronics are getting better and more reliable all the time but are nowhere near as good as automotive electrics. Mechanical problems on all the top tier tractors are pretty much a thing of the past, but now we have electrical to contend with. I think that is sad to lose the old mechanically controlled diesels, but unavoidable. There are also several really good up and comers...but I don't know about them and would consider a good local dealer to be more important to you right now than the brand.

Cab vs Open Station.... again, we have both. And as a younger person OR a person just learning about tractors I would recommend an open station because it involves you more in the experience - plus it really is easier to get on and off. You will run into a few trees in the cab that you would miss with the open station - but here there is also the fact that the cab can protect you from being speared by branches...not as unlikely as you may think.

However, once you gain experience in operating the tractor - it takes a few years - then you will begin to lean toward a cab. But I think for a complete amateur there is a lot to be learned open station even though it is definitely less comfortable. One possibility is to buy a model that has an optional cab. It will cost more in the long run to add the cab later, but by then you will know if you want to do that or trade around.
That's all just my opinion on the cab or not choice of course, and you will find many strong opinions on open station vs cab. And most of it depends on how you feel about it. How much does cold or hot bother you? Dust? Does your motorcycle have a windshield? If so you may prefer the cab.

If you do get an open station, definitely get a 4 post canopy with an insulated top. The posts help you get on/off, and deflect branches. The insulated top prevents the canopy from refecting heat and sound down. The TLB model Kubotas M59/M62 are excellent examples of an insulated top. It's also a tractor with several aftermarket cabs available as well as soft cabs. So there are options - but non of the add-ons I've seen are nearly so nice as an original factory cab.

There is definitely a market for a windshield on the 4 post canopy type tractors, it would be easy to mount one, but so far no aftermarket that I know of. There are some custom soft cab builders. If you are near big water there may be a marine fabricator of dodgers who would make something up.

Spaciousness in a cab is a real luxury. Our JD has enough room to stretch out, so I put a folding buddy seat ours for my wife to ride along. Adding the dog makes it a bit cramped. But at low speed with the "ride control" engaged, radio for music, and AC on .... it's a goofy but fun way to go a couple miles to town with a load of slash for the town burn pile, then pick up a few groceries, and some fuel.

The quintissential cab was one I saw on an older 90 hp Zetor from the 1970s. Their factory cab had a full width seat behind the driver which I guess was for the whole family to sit. BTW, Zetor is an example of a good old tractor that made a wrong turn but are coming back strong. Although their lack of a dealer network plus the occassional mechanical oddity (square O rings?) is too much of a disadvantage for me.

So get a nice tractor that appeals to you. Put a nice loader on it with a SSQA adapter, and don't get too big of a FEL bucket. You want to be able to see what the bucket is doing. Get at least 60 hp, transmission of your choice - but make sure that transmission has a simple handy power reverser in every gear, and get at least one set of remote hydraulic outlets front and rear. That's about it.
Enjoy your new tractor!
rScotty
 
   / Bigger tractor vs Cab #17  
I just bought last week but decided on the Massey Ferguson 1835MH with a premium cab. Just the first week of use and I'm sold on the cab's value. 110 degree heat index yesterday and they day before and the AC was cold even in that kind of heat. Zero bugs and dust and it is buggy here in the semi tropical zone. The factory cabs on these things have amazing visibility and you can open pretty much any windows you want except the windshield. You definitely want to run significant rear ballast with a FEL. The stronger the loader, the more ballast you want.
 
   / Bigger tractor vs Cab #18  
Working long hours in a cab makes AC necessry. Getting in and out of an AC cab in hot weather is NOT healthy. Sweating is actually very healthy. And NOT that bad when you aren't doing physical work, are out of the sun, are lightly dressed and maybe have a fan. Not hard to take, even for me, that can't stand heat.
sorry, but that makes no sense to me. i have AC in house, tractor and all my vehicles. im 62YO, use ac all summer long. work outdoors all my life. i havnt been sick for nearly 20 years as long as i remember. not even a cold. i owe that to taking SuperC (ascorbic acid form of vitamin C) whenever i feel something coming on. all better next day. I LOVE my A/C, I absolutely despise the heat.
 
   / Bigger tractor vs Cab #19  
I just bought last week but decided on the Massey Ferguson 1835MH with a premium cab. Just the first week of use and I'm sold on the cab's value. 110 degree heat index yesterday and they day before and the AC was cold even in that kind of heat. Zero bugs and dust and it is buggy here in the semi tropical zone. The factory cabs on these things have amazing visibility and you can open pretty much any windows you want except the windshield. You definitely want to run significant rear ballast with a FEL. The stronger the loader, the more ballast you want.

I know I like the cab, it has made it more enjoyable for me to be outside and really helps out with my allergies.

Congrats on the tractor and enjoy it.
 
   / Bigger tractor vs Cab #20  
I've come to the conclusion that there isn't any universal one size fits all answer to the cab vs open station question. It depends on where you live and how you feel about being in the open air. Here in the Rocky Mountains at 7500 feet in the pine forest there is intense sun but no dust or insects so we naturally tend toward open stations with canopys.

Growing up in Texas as a teenager plowing and harvesting in the dust and heat I personally never felt the summer was too hot or buggy, and so rarely bothered with hat or gloves or sunglasses ... or a canopy. But now my skin wishes that I had. I wouldn't do it the same way today.

In fact, today as an older guy I would definitely go for a full cab if I was living down South again. But I'm not down there. My age and the climate here combine to be just right for a canopy on an open station tractor for most of the year. There are still cold enough cold days in mid-winter, though. So it's always a compromise.
rScotty
 
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