Bleeding Hydraulics, 1966 Ford 5000, Loader

[Ervin Smith]

The IT mauaal says the plug for the return hydraulic line in on the right side. It is not it is on the left side, as your sitting on the tractor. Caused me some confusion to be sure.

 

[Ervin Smith]

Thanks for the tip RickB. I used what the dealer sold me, Ambra Multi G 134. The only plug area anywhere on the rear is right accross from the PTO shaft on the left side, sitting down. No plug there,
that plug location is wear the hydraulics are plugged into. I had to remove everything, then use new tape to put it all back. Took 2 gallen back out. I let it drain till it was dripping only, then put it all back together. So it was 3 gallen low. ****. it Wasn't clear anymore mixed with what was in there.
The loader still won't do anything. The 3 point hitch raises up and down, depending on if that black knob under the seat right side, is in or out. Tried the loader both ways in, and out several time. Nothing. Oh well.

And there is another knob, next to that black knob that pulls in and out, which turns, it says Slow and Fast, I think its for the 3way hitch and hydraulics.

The knob has to be in to operate the 3 point hitch, and out to operate the auxiouriy hyd as it says, whatever you add to the tractor. In your case and mine the front end loader. There is anotehr port, to attach it to on my 5000 that says it will operate both without the knob, Going to change that when I get the chance, justleave the existing one alone since I can't get it out anyway, and put in a new feed, to the upper center place you tape into to operate both 3 point hitch and add on, front end loader simutaniously. It does mention, a possible decrease in lift ability, but in my case, I will not be over lifting with it anyway. I better read my IT tech book again though to be sure. Sure won't hurt to read the instructions more than once. haha

 

[Soundguy]

I truely believe the dealer, was just plain stupid, unknowageable would be a better way to say it, About the Ford tractors, Not sure what models he dealt in. The Ford 5000 seems to be a odd duck now that I have dealt with is so much. I have the new filter in, the mesh strainer clean, and the pump reinstalled. Took a break to read the torgue settings it says 35 to 44 lbs torgue, will do that next then add the fluid back. Cross my fingers that the 3 point hitch will work once more. Doing this every 300 hours or 24 months will be a real pain in the ***. hahahaha The flex hose it mentions, is actually the independant pto pr3essure hose. Now that is very very difficult to get re attached, I had to get help, couldn't do it myself, two friends spent a hour trying to do it, finally it caught enough threads to be screwed in. Wow. Wore me out just watching them. Caution, the houseing is sharp on the edges, I cut the back of my hand up pretty good.

you won't need to change that filter or pull the pump every 300 hours. I don't even look at fluid changes before 600 hours, unless it gets wet.

5000 is a decent machine. not what I would classify as an odd ball.

the 6000.. now that was an oddball!

 

[Ervin Smith]

Got it all together. Don't work. Drove it around and noticed, when I push the clutch in, then the 3 point hitch raises. Thats not supposed to work that way. And the pto also has stopped turning, and it turns when the clutch is pushed in at the same time the 3 point hitch will raise and lower but really slow. It just does not make any sense. I am thinking clutch and transmission problem may have been part of my problem all along. Or some kind of adjustment

 

[Soundguy]

pto is hyd clutch.. so if no hyd pressure.. no pto.. sounds like when clutch in.. you are getting some hyd pressure.

how is that laoder and pump plumbed?

 

[Ervin Smith]

I took the loader off to work on it, plus the dealer said it would save me $500 because if they had to take the looader off and put it back on. So I took it off. That was when I was talking to them about putting in a new clutch. because it would have to come in half to do that. So i just took it off one day. I am so proud of myself. First time i did something like that by myself in over 12 years with my disablity preventing me from doing most things. Nervous anxiety, prevents me from doing most challengeing chores.

 

[Ervin Smith]

When I push the clutch in about half way, give or take, you can hear someting engageing, and the 3way and pto start working.


The auxiery hyd hose is still on, that runs a accessory hyd, but its just goes into theport just under and in front of the seat, like usual. So its basically dead now without the front end loader on it.

 

[Ervin Smith]

http://www.tractorbynet.com/photos/showphoto.php?photo=10401&cat=500

 

[Soundguy]

something weird goin on here.. that machine has a single plate dry clutch.. not a dual clutch. the ind pto is seperate shaft running thru.. thus should be turning all the time engine is running.

time for whodat or rickb to jump in. this part of a 65+ machine I've less experience in, past the pump itself.. etc and hyd clutch pack.

sounds as if hyd pump not working till clutch i pushed half way.. thus no power to 3pt or hyd clutch on pto...

 

[whodat526]

i will take a gamble and say the hyd drive shaft or the hub in the fly will it stripped