blown off tire.

[kenmac]

It's a small bead around the inside of the wheel. Example ; run a lawntractor low of air and turn , the tire will break from it's bead (seal) of the wheel . An ATV tire won't do this because of the bead lock.

 

[TOMMYHPX4X4]

i don't know about the bead lock on the atv rims. i have changed a few and never saw and bead locks on them . what locks the tire on an atv is when you inflate it with more pressure than the tire requires it stretches the tire so it will fit the rim. after the tire is on the rim then you let the air out to it's normal pressure and it shrinks around the rim there fore sealing it on.i use a little oil on my tires it helps the tire go on a bit easier. i never realy liked the idea of putting that much pressure to seat the tire because some of them can be tough to get them to seat all the way on the rims.

 

[TOMMYHPX4X4]

i don't know about the bead lock on the atv rims. i have changed a few and never saw and bead locks on them . what locks the tire on an atv is when you inflate it with more pressure than the tire requires it stretches the tire so it will fit the rim. after the tire is on the rim then you let the air out to it's normal pressure and it shrinks around the rim there fore sealing it on.i use a little oil on my tires it helps the tire go on a bit easier. i never realy liked the idea of putting that much pressure to seat the tire because some of them can be tough to get them to seat all the way on the rims.

 

[RollTideRam]

I believe that is something like a safety bead. I know on older trucks that came with 16.5 inch wheels, there was no safety bead and the tire would lose a bead easily. In the 4x4 world, a bead lock wheel is a two piece wheel with 18 or 32 bolts that sandwich the outside bead so that it will not come off the wheel, even running 4 psi.
Just different terminology from different machines I guess. JC

 

[RollTideRam]

I believe that is something like a safety bead. I know on older trucks that came with 16.5 inch wheels, there was no safety bead and the tire would lose a bead easily. In the 4x4 world, a bead lock wheel is a two piece wheel with 18 or 32 bolts that sandwich the outside bead so that it will not come off the wheel, even running 4 psi.
Just different terminology from different machines I guess. JC

 

[Av8r3400]

If you look at an ATV wheel and a lawn mower wheel you can see the extra ridge just to the inside of where the bead rests. This is the safety bead.

Getting the tire past this, mounting and dismounting, is the hassle with ATV tire changing. They do work very well.

Does your HPX have these?

Also, FYI, using any petroleum based product to seat tire beads will quickly ruin the tires. Petroleum will break down the rubber, even what's left on the wheel/bead. Hand soap or dish soap works better.

 

[Av8r3400]

If you look at an ATV wheel and a lawn mower wheel you can see the extra ridge just to the inside of where the bead rests. This is the safety bead.

Getting the tire past this, mounting and dismounting, is the hassle with ATV tire changing. They do work very well.

Does your HPX have these?

Also, FYI, using any petroleum based product to seat tire beads will quickly ruin the tires. Petroleum will break down the rubber, even what's left on the wheel/bead. Hand soap or dish soap works better.

 

[darkday]

heres a pic of my 06 diesel HPX is that other ridge a bead lock ?

 

[darkday]

heres a pic of my 06 diesel HPX is that other ridge a bead lock ?

 

[RobJ]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( i use a little oil on my tires it helps the tire go on a bit easier. )</font>

I think there is a reason that ALL the tire places use soapy water to seat the beads instead of oil. For one the soapy water will evaporate. The oil might not be the best in the long run. You want the rubber to dry stick to the rim, not always be slippery with the oil. Did you have oil on the tire that came off?

 

[RobJ]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( i use a little oil on my tires it helps the tire go on a bit easier. )</font>

I think there is a reason that ALL the tire places use soapy water to seat the beads instead of oil. For one the soapy water will evaporate. The oil might not be the best in the long run. You want the rubber to dry stick to the rim, not always be slippery with the oil. Did you have oil on the tire that came off?

 

[RobJ]

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Getting the tire past this, mounting and dismounting, is the hassle with ATV tire changing. They do work very well.

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When taking a tire off the rim or putting it on the first big problem is the bead, stuck, rusted, etc. Seating the bead to hold air is the second hardest (soapy water helps). But when putting the tire on or off most people let the tire bead lay on the rim when they are trying to pry on the top bead (with the tire laying flat on the ground that is). If you keep the beads in the center of the rim(center has a smaller diameter than the outter bead portion), you can almost put the tire on by hand. Same with bike tires and everything. It took me 40 years to learn and remember this, but when I see someone fighting with a tire it's always a pleasure to help. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[RobJ]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">(
Getting the tire past this, mounting and dismounting, is the hassle with ATV tire changing. They do work very well.

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When taking a tire off the rim or putting it on the first big problem is the bead, stuck, rusted, etc. Seating the bead to hold air is the second hardest (soapy water helps). But when putting the tire on or off most people let the tire bead lay on the rim when they are trying to pry on the top bead (with the tire laying flat on the ground that is). If you keep the beads in the center of the rim(center has a smaller diameter than the outter bead portion), you can almost put the tire on by hand. Same with bike tires and everything. It took me 40 years to learn and remember this, but when I see someone fighting with a tire it's always a pleasure to help. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[TOMMYHPX4X4]

no just mudd /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif wheni say oil i don't mean pour it on i mean put like a coat of armorall on it.very thin i'm sure if you cake it on it will eventualy do damage to the tire but the part i use it on is the thickest part of the tire. if you look at the tire cleaners like son of a gun they have oil in them. it will leave a film on the water if you wring out a rag with it on it.

so to me useing them tire cleaners with a oil in them to clean the tire or shine them up is more harmfull than using a little oil one time.i mean come on how many times do you have to seat the tires or change them. useing oil one time every couple of years to me is better than sprayin them with a oil base product once a week.if it makes you feel better use vegitable oil . you can use what you want but the thread on your tire's will probably wearout long before that little lite coat of oil breaks the tire down.

 

[TOMMYHPX4X4]

no just mudd /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif wheni say oil i don't mean pour it on i mean put like a coat of armorall on it.very thin i'm sure if you cake it on it will eventualy do damage to the tire but the part i use it on is the thickest part of the tire. if you look at the tire cleaners like son of a gun they have oil in them. it will leave a film on the water if you wring out a rag with it on it.

so to me useing them tire cleaners with a oil in them to clean the tire or shine them up is more harmfull than using a little oil one time.i mean come on how many times do you have to seat the tires or change them. useing oil one time every couple of years to me is better than sprayin them with a oil base product once a week.if it makes you feel better use vegitable oil . you can use what you want but the thread on your tire's will probably wearout long before that little lite coat of oil breaks the tire down.