Bobcat with forestry cutter?

   / Bobcat with forestry cutter?
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#11  
Hey Pac, if that is all the land you will be currently clearing, I would look at the machine Cann has. You cant really go on what you read about the asv's. Most of that is operator mis-haps. A used machine for mulching is probably better because most of the bugs are worked out. There is a lot of stress on a skid steer mulching cause its not made for it. you will save a lot of money using a mulcher and be able to till it into the ground more if you use the carbide teeth. I have not used knives so i cant speak for them. 8000sq ft is nothing when you can do an acre a day. Seems like you have no competition whis is sort of good right now you can charge your price; however buy a used machine. Sell it once you build up finances and lease or purchase a newer machine and you will still be on top because you will have experience and competition. BTW it takes a while to learn HOW to mulch without tearing anything up.

Thanks ralanb. I am not looking to go into the mulching business. I am a developer and builder. The property/lots that we are clearing is property that we own. Until recently we were able to clear with 200hp and 300hp excavators with thumbs, pile and burn. Now the burning has been pretty much shut down and we're having to pay to haul off the brush. We build 30-50 houses per year, and some of the lots are just full of dune grasses, but the majority have quite a bit of really dense standing brush.

Nobody close to where we are building is offering mulching, or we would consider hiring it out. Since it will save us 2-3k per lot I am not too worried about a machine paying for itself fairly quickly. What I do want to be sure of is that a machine in the 90hp range with a mulcher will do what we need it to do. Tomorrow I am going to contact the nearest Cat rental place and see if they have a mulcher that can be rented with a machine, just to get a sense of if it will work. If it works, we may consider buying something like the HM315 mulcher and renting a machine when we need it. Since we're only talking about a few days per month of actual work I'm not sure having a depreciating machine setting the majority of the time makes too much sense. Though I think it's probably a good business, at this time I'm not interested in doing mulching for anyone other than ourselves.

Will the carbide type heads, like the HM315 sort of till grass. like dune grass, into the top of the soil? On dune lots in the past we have hired a guy with a tractor and a tiller, but he has since moved out of the area and nobody else is tilling in the area at this time. If a mulching head could turn up the top of the soil, that would be great. This is on the coast. The soil is all sand, no rocks whatsoever.
 
   / Bobcat with forestry cutter? #12  
Yes the carbide teeth will till into the soil and last 3 times as long as metal. I use my mulching head to bush hog lots as well, it actually does a better job than a bush hog. The rocks will not effect the carbide teeth. I have accidentaly mulched chimneys and cinder blocks.
 
   / Bobcat with forestry cutter? #13  
Also to add, I think you may get better use out of a wheeled unit with steel over the tire tracks, less to wear out and better traction.
 
   / Bobcat with forestry cutter?
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Also to add, I think you may get better use out of a wheeled unit with steel over the tire tracks, less to wear out and better traction.

We previously had an ASV RC50 that we used quite a bit and it seemed to go better in the sand than our concrete subs wheeled units with over the tire tracks. The sand at the beach can get pretty mucky when it's wet, which it is pretty often. Do you think the newer over the tire tracks are better than a tracked unit?
 
   / Bobcat with forestry cutter? #15  
Your Mulcher with carbide teeth are your best bet. The Bobcat mulcher is made by fecon with bobcat drum specs. It is not a true fecon mulcher. The teeth are very expensive on the bobcat and you have to get them from a bobcat dealer. The bobcat heads have a lot of issues with drums cracking. The fecon with their drum design will out perform the bobcat and the fae heads. It will cut grass, scotch broom, brush and small trees very well. It is US built!! The Cat head is an fae head, built in Italy. The Fae and the Bobcat round drum mulchers will not cut with a Fecon. What ever carriers you decide on, buy from a reliable dealer that willback up what he sells you. If I was buying a rubber track skid steer I would look at the Takeuchi TL150 or new mode TL25o. They are built like a tank and very reliable. Asplundh Tree Service in Western Washington runs a fleet of Takeuchi Loaders with Fecon Heads.
 
   / Bobcat with forestry cutter? #16  
If you spend a lot of time in beach sand, then you may want to use the rubber ott tracks. Look into the loegering steel tracks. The tracked skid steers are verry expensive to repair the under carrige from 300- 8000 dollars or more.
 
   / Bobcat with forestry cutter? #17  
I would also look into the warrnty that is offered from the manufacture, most are eonly 6 month to maybe a year. FAE has a 2 year warranty on everything they manufacture, pretty strong!
 
   / Bobcat with forestry cutter? #18  
I HAVE HAD 2 T 320 S AND I JUST BOUGHT A NEW TL 250 HIGH FLOW FROM TAKAHUCI AND AM VERY IMPRESSED. IT RUNS MY BOBCAT HEAD BETTER AND I HAVE HAD NO DOWN TIME.
 
   / Bobcat with forestry cutter? #19  
Mr. Pac:
I have a ASV RC100 with a Tushogg. It is a rotating drum unit with carbide teeth and cutting cups. You can go to the Tushogg website to see the specifics. I recently retired and also have a 341 Bobcat excavator and I use all of this stuff I mean I play with all of my big boy toys on my 20 acres on Whidbey Island WA. I live in fear when they stop burning in our area but at least I am prepared.
I have cleaned up most everything on my property and it is becoming "park like"! The guys are right a muching head on a skid steer is very taxing on the machine. You need to know what you are doing when you operate the machine and the only way you learn is by doing.
Feel free to contact me for more info. I am sure the Tushogg would work fanatastic for what you need to do.

Ultraglide62
 
   / Bobcat with forestry cutter? #20  
I know this is an old thread. I'll start a new one if needed.

Considering the purchase of a new bobcat 770 with 60" forestry cutter. I went to the dealer today and got a quote. I was able to get in the seat of a new 870 being ready for delivery. I did not operate the cutting head. They have some attractive leasing and purchase options.
For those of you who have owned and run this type of equipment I am seeking some input.
to save debate the 770 is the largest model that meets my requirements. This dealership owns most of the surrounding territories. With this type of use I am sure I will need support.

Here is a list of options. Any input would be helpful. It costs more than my first house!

770 compact loader- tier 3
36mo protection plus plan
joystick controls
A91pkg:
cab with heat and a/c
high flow hydro
sound reduction
hydro bucket positioning
power bob-tach
deluxe instrumentation
keyless start
block heater
attachment control kit
cab accessories pkg
2 speed travel
3 pt seat belt

roller suspension
60" forestry cutter
engine compartment seal kit
forestry applications kit


Seeking any input from users considering options, financing vs. leasing, protection plus plan...

TIA
 

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