bolt on or weld on cutting edge

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JoelD

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Kioti LK3054xs TLB, 2004
Want to put an additional cutting edge on my 1231 on my LK3054. Should I go with weld on or bolt on, I don't want to bend the stock cutting edge. If bolt on, any advice on drilling the holes other than have my drill doctor ready to go?
Not putting tooth bar on as I do a lot of loader work off of the driveway.

Thanks all.
Joel
 
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Joel, mine is bolted on & although i haven't had mine off i like the option. Just make sure the front groove on the toothbar is against the leading edge of the bucket before marking/drilling the (2) holes. The drilling is easy since the steel is not case hardened. I have put alot of stress/pressure on one or more teeth without any bending. I also welded a 10' boom to the center tooth to use in raising my 30x50 arched steel building & it worked like a charm. Mine is a Markam & i think it was $325.
RD
 
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Thanks for the response. I'm planning on using a straight edge cutting edge. I've got the backhoe for digging and breaking up ground. I'm looking for additional straight edge so that the original does not bend, I've bent them in the past. Was concerned about the drilling, sounds like the original edge is not hardened, that should make bolt on a lot easier.
Thanks,
Joel
 
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If you are looking for extra bucket support I would cut the original cutting edge off and weld on a much heavier one. I'd also weld cutting edge to the front sides of the bucket.:D
 
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If you wanted to go the bolt route you could check with Wallace Tractor. I believe he has the bolt on for all Kioti loaders and if you had any questions about it being strong enough he would be the man to answer them.
 
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Hey Rick, you out there, what are your thought as to best way to strengthen my cutting edge, cut off original and weld on replacement, bolt on under existing, weld on under existing? Anyone else's thoughts also appreciated. Thanks guys, I had not thought about cutting off existing, rather just adding on. Total replacement makes sense, as well as the side cutting edges.
 
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JoelD said:
Hey Rick, you out there, what are your thought as to best way to strengthen my cutting edge, cut off original and weld on replacement, bolt on under existing, weld on under existing? Anyone else's thoughts also appreciated. Thanks guys, I had not thought about cutting off existing, rather just adding on. Total replacement makes sense, as well as the side cutting edges.
I bought a bolt on for my Kioti DK40 se from wallace tractor recently and could not be happier,very heavy duty quality cutting edge IMHO.coobie
 
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JoelD said:
Hey Rick, you out there, what are your thought as to best way to strengthen my cutting edge, cut off original and weld on replacement, bolt on under existing, weld on under existing? Anyone else's thoughts also appreciated. Thanks guys, I had not thought about cutting off existing, rather just adding on. Total replacement makes sense, as well as the side cutting edges.


Use a reversable bolt on cutting edge...what I mean by a reversable cutting edge is the cutting edge is beveled on both sides and punched in the center when you wear the edge down you just cut the bolts off and spin the edge around.
You will have to drill your bucket edge to fit the cutting edge bolt pattern.
I sell the 60" cutting for $102 w/the hardware.
 
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I was thinking about a second cutting edge but not for strength but to save the original from wearing down. I couldn't get any good answers around where I live but should have known TBN was the place.
It's a good thing that I don't live close to Rick's place. He has everything and I'd be broke.
Rick, Could you give a rough number for the shipping of that piece of steel to Erie, PA. If reasonable and I know you have no control, I'll be giving you a call. Thanks
 
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I bent the one on my prior machine, makes picking up cleanly from pavement impossible, like crushed stone or snow or sand, etc.
Thanks Rick, I'll call mike tomorrow.
Sincerely,
Joel
 
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I mentioned this on another toothbar thread, but it is worth repeating. When it comes time to take off your toothbar for any reason, use the hydraulics to "shake" the bucket rather than muscling it off. Mine should have come off easy, but it hung up and one quick jerk gave me a pain in my back for a month. Never do anything by hand that you can do with a tool!
 
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I called Rick the other day and had my reversible bolt on cutting edge in three days. UPS lady never askes anymore what some of the things are she delivers to me. Drilling six 1/2 inch holes in the original cutting edge goes pretty easy. This steel isn't as hard as I thought it was. I wish I would have installed this cutting edge from the start. The only problem I can see is if you wanted to also add a tooth bar. This edge would have to come off but then a tooth bar has it's own cutting edge bar.
Thanks Rick
 
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Your quite welcome:D
 
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So is the only purpose of a bolt on edge is to protect the factory edge from wear and tear? If you bend the bolt on, arent' you likely to bend the one it's bolted to as well?
 
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would be super hard, with a 1500lb lift loader to bend both the bolt on and stock cutting edge at the same time. Not terribly difficult to bend stock cutting edge, particularly when dealing with big pointy rocks. Once the edge is bent, no fun picking materials up from the driveway.

I ordered my edge from Rick yesterday and should receive by Friday in time to bolt to my bucket.

Joel
 
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Just finished mounting the bolt on cutting edge, thanks for the prompt delivery Rick. The hole drilling was rough going at first, used 1/2 to start with and that was a bad idea, even with Drill Doctor first two holes took forever. With 1/4 pilot, next 4 were piece of cake. Glad I bolted on instead of welding will make swap over when flipping the cutting edge (double edged) easier.

Thanks all,
Joel
 
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I'm about to install one of these on my ck30. Those of you who have installed, any tips you can share about proper placement, etc?

thanks.
 
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Hmmmmmmm.....gift certificate or cutting edge. Why not both? And a gallon of cider on the way home...... Ahhh, Christmas is here :)
 

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